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Well, thank you all for joining today, both in person and online. My name is Kobe Lebanowski.

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I'm a project geologist with Western solutions.

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And today with me, Doug Geary, with Sky Tim, and today we are going to present to you delineation of a potentially tce impacted aquifer via airborne electromagnetic, geophysical survey, no boots on the ground.

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So this groundwater remediation project is that fee warn air force, base.

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Former Atlas E missile site 11. The formally used defense site and project is contracted through the Us. Army corps of Engineers, Omaha, District.

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So bulleted. Here are some of the points throughout the presentation, however, in the big picture the primary focus was to map potential off-site.

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Groundwater pathways in order to delineate the Tc extent in the unconfined water bearings.

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So what we're trying to convey is how an airborne approach to a geophysical investigation can be extremely powerful.

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Yeah, economically feasible tool to assist with identifying Viable.

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Well, locations. So first, I'd like to introduce the site.

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Speak to some of the conceptual site model or Csm updates and challenges.

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And while navigating this circle framework so I'll highlight some of the remediation system design, construction and overall performance, and and then I'll speak to the airborne electronmagnetics and bring dug up and and how it was applied to this site so then

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we'll go over the discuss some of the results and interpretation of the of the airborne data.

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It LED us to our ultimate goal, which was proposing well locations with intention rather than hope.

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So the site is located approximately 80 miles north of Denver, Colorado, up near the Wyoming border.

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Do you? In the early 19 sixtyties, Tricloro, Ethelene, or Tce, coordinate and solvent, was used to clean out the fuel lines in between missile readiness exercises.

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This spent, tce was disposed of.

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In a sump, where it was then introduced into the unconfined water bearing zone, and that something is located in the this yellow circle.

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Here, couple couple of key boundaries. That will be referenced.

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Throughout this talk. The blue box here is the on-site area, and in future slides.

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You'll see how it's been divided up into 2 separate areas.

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And we'll note that groundwater is moving Eastern from that source area.

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So towards the Usda property. There, as another boundary.

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There in red is Colorado engineering experiment station, or CC.

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And they are the current owners of the old Atlas 11 missile site and they run a light industrial operation where they do calibration and and flow testing.

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Services. Black lines are dividing adjacent property owners.

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So we have the private landowner number one, and note that half the eastern half of the onsite area is.

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Is actually the private property, and and then to the east, we have Usda property, which is downgrading it from the from the Tc impacted areas.

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Sorry, and this this large green box. Here is the area that we perform the airborne electromagnetic study.

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And again note the overlap of the on site area.

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Because this was by design.

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So this is a figure. Yeah, that portrays the historical Tc maximum on the site where each individual well back to 1,999.

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Its highest reported Tc. Value is plotted so.

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In a lot of like when we get snapshots through time.

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You'll never see the total footprint and you'll never see.

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Continue continuous plume, or a channel like a pencil line, flute.

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So, putting together something like this, and with the historical Max, could be very beneficial for any contaminated site.

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Okay.

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So notice orange diagonal boundary here. This is the 2 areas that I was alluding to in the last slide, we have the source area on the west in the east area and the east.

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The highest recorded value on site is much smaller than most of these other presentations.

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We've heard 1,100 micrograms per liter.

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That's found in this oval magenta area right near the Flame Pit.

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Of the site. So.

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So this pencil line plume is a result of the local geology, where we have varied paleo channels that provide the primary conveyance for the groundwater flow, and it's important because you can see that the orange here is anything above 250 micrograms per liter and anything

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in the blue is below 50, so you can see that most of the mass is concentrated in the center.

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In that Paleo channel. And the sudden, the sudden termination along this surficial road, Boundary County Road, 37 to the east.

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It's not realistic. We know that it continues onto the other side, which is why we need to investigate over that way.

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So this was the Isco, or insects, you chemical accident, remediation, system, design, and construction.

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So it is.

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Did. So. Let's begin with this schematic in the upper left, and how it works intend to do a recirculation system where we extract from a down a down ingredient.

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Well hold the water to the surface. We dose it with a prescribed volume of sodium per manganate, and then that dosed fluid is then injected into a well that's upgrading and acts as like a closed loop.

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Recirculation so, and and we're able to induce the gradient slightly we're able to control where our remedy is going.

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Smearing, and go kind of cross gradient to cover.

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A larger area. We can also target where that remedy is going.

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So like. I had mentioned before that eastern area is a a private landowner, and and his crop is grass, and this is cattle.

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Rangeland, and we didn't want to block off this 15 acre area, so it was unusable to him.

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So we ended up going subsurface with most of the most of the remediation system.

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So everything inside this orange rectangle box up here is all of our above ground equipment, and everything outside is subgrade, so that the so that the cattle still have their free range across that area.

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So a couple of unique features are the subsurface tubing, which was key through to last through the winters, and having that UV hit the tubing, you just have to replace it every year.

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But this way we've had this in place for almost 5 years now, and we have connection points.

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They're denoted by these green boxes here that are flush, mount, and even our wells are flush.

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Mount, and one of the one of the neat things about this is that everything is kind of set up.

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So as we receive data in, we can jump around well pairs to target the areas.

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And most wells have injection and extraction capabilities. And so what we found out was, recirculation is key, and.

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So a little bit on the remediation performance and it's really been optimized through the years to attain some of these unique features so it's a it's a context for. And it definitely is if we don't get sodium for manganese to come

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in contact with the tce. You're not gonna have any, and reduction or any reaction going on.

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So so we've successfully reduced the concentration of Tc in the source area by 98% as seen on this lower chart.

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Here. We've had a few events of rebound, but then we but to be like asymptotic conditions.

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And so we we had achieved response complete to the extent practicable, and we seized the system in 2,019, and in the eastern area we have reduced the Tc concentration by approximately 84%.

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And that is still ongoing in process in that area.

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So this I designed this remediation system to to implement up to 8 injection extraction.

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Well, pairs simultaneously, and we can achieve near 100% uptime throughout the field season, which is typically May through October in Colorado, weather depending, and the system is fully automated and who doesn't like automation.

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It's controlled by these upper and lower floats, which is located here that are in the like.

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The in between extraction and injection phase, where they're in a temporary holding tank.

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So maintaining water balance in there to keep injection and extraction on continuously is is pretty key.

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And again, that flexible design. As lab data comes in, we can move and target different areas in an hour and change up welfare. So it's a very, very convenient in that manner.

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So, and lastly, sodium, premiuminate is very, very effective in the groundwater, as far as it's persistent and its duration, as well so we've ended in 2,019 remedial efforts in that source area, however, this

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snapshot up here. You can see that the that the source area here still has a significant presence of sodium per manganate.

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And that's 3 years later.

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Okay, so the circle framework is, it's set up in a linear process.

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And as we all know, this process can easily be broken if the prior steps are not fully complete, and I think that's a lot of why we're here is, how can we do this investigation phase correct?

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The first time, and rather than having to come back to it multiple times.

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So we were awarded this project in 2011, and our original scope of work is here in the blue, and so we proposed a plan and march through, and once we've reached the remedial action remedial action phase, we had realized that that the initial csm

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had this Bolsey-style plume that was stagnant, and and it was like a perched waterbbing zone.

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And by 2,014 we reopen. We had realized that the plume was, in fact, moving towards the east, so we investigated the eastern area, that private property where the system was built, using seismic refraction, and that allowed us to Drill guide us to Drill a bunch of wells that

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we'd use as treatment wells. And here we are coming back to that again, because we need to look, beyond the other side of County Road 37.

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There, where?

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Where that plume just ended, at a superficial boundary.

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So? Why, an airborne, electromagnetic survey?

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So we've updated this Csm, and we have significantly reduced the Tc impacted footprint since 2,011.

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But we have yet to constrain and understand this full picture and extent of the plume.

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So do this unrealistic termination again, at the at the.

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This is really delayed at the end of the on site area on the eastern half.

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There. We wanted to take what we understand and know from the current onsite area to model and predict what's going on in the offsite area to the east.

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So, in order to simulate the extent of Tc impacts down gradient and data were synthesized, using geologic modeling software and can couple it with chemical transport code.

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Now this will give us a distance of how far the Tc.

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Could travel down gradient, but it doesn't necessarily tell us where.

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So if we go back to that ideology of of using a paleo channel-driven system and and oftentimes you will have topographic lows with paleo channels positioned vertically beneath them.

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We can use topographic lows as we did on the Usda property to help guide where this chemical transport code is directing it to.

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So it's it's kind of this am. Survey is going to verify whether this assumption is correct.

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Using topographic lows to identify paleotunals.

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And it's also going to see if there's anything that we missed, or if it's we we completely missed the mark.

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There. So we were tasked to delineate the Tcp.

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Plume in the area east of County road 37, with the the chief purpose to collect subsurface data in a noninvasive manner, with no boots on the ground, and to guide up the guide up to 6 well locations in order to delineate the extent of this c

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Clone. One last thing before we bring dung up that large green box that you saw was 800 acres, so we have to drill 6.

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Wells, and so drilling with intention again, rather than hope, is what we're aiming for, and we'll notice that this large plume or simulated plume area is approximately 2 miles.

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Conservatively speaking, is how far Tc. Could have gone downgradient.

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So this survey is intended to capture that whole area, to see to see what's going on, and Doug.

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Thanks, colleague. So basically, what is airborne?

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Electromagnetics, a transmitter and receiver, coil are slung below helicopter, and the transmitter generates a primary magnetic field by quickly turning on and off a current in the transmitting coil this primary field enters the earth.

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And energizes any conductive bodies in the ground, which then create a secondary magnetic field.

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When the primary magnetic field is turned off the secondary ground field is measured as voltages in the receiver coil.

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And this happens multiple times on a scale of microseconds.

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From these voltages. We can then calculate Earth resistivities as we can see in the animation on the lower left, the primary magnetic field moves down and outwards into the ground.

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And in this case it is moving approximately 150 millioners depth in 2 ms.

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So it does have very quickly.

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So how are we get from voltages to lithology?

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Once the voltages are converted in a resistivity they're plotted, and in this case, as a one d.

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Vertical section, rock types can be inferred by looking up textbook, earth resistivity ranges.

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Unfortunately, rocks and soil resistivities can vary from location to location, and they do have overlapping ranges.

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So it is difficult to determine exact mythology.

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So if we take a look at this color bar on the upper right, we can see that sand and gravel has the range of you know, 20 to 50 Ohm meters, but that's the exact same range as fresh water.

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So we have to figure out a way to be able to differentiate between these 2, so to help to do that.

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It's really critical to obtain geological data gather from boreholes.

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Local borals, and that gives us much more confidence in the with logical interpretation.

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And it's always best to locate these boreholes over the Em.

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Sounding, looks.

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This is a picture of the Em system. It's approximately 10 meters by 20 meters wide.

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The transmitter cable goes around the outside of the loop auxiliary equipment is mounted on it.

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We have GPS and inclinometers and laser altimeters, and this information is needed to properly convert the voltages into resistivities.

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The system transmits 2 types of waveforms. One is a low-strength triangular waveform shown here in blue, and this is designed to excite the near surface geology.

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The second waveform is a stronger square shape waveform, and that helps to energize deep geology.

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The orange traces here represent the secondary field from the earth, and you can see how it decays away.

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Slowly with time, and the dots represent the measurement point along that decay.

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Many factors going to the design of a survey, including some understanding of the geological trends.

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It's always best practice to fly perpendicular to the geological strike of interest.

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There's also many logistical and safety and faa regulatory concerns that have to be taken into account for this survey the Skytam, 304 system was chosen, as it's ability to map in the near surface a tight 50 meter line separation flown in a grid

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pattern was chosen to achieve high lateral and vertical data resolution.

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Flying height of 35 metres and a flight speed of 100 kilometers an hour. We're both chosen.

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Balancing safety concerns and data. Resolution concerns.

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The survey itself consisted consisted of 27 transacts, each about 2 and a half kilometers long, and covering an area of just over 800 acres.

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This resulted in about 60,000 E. M. Sounding locations, and at each location 50 readings were made, resulting in the approximately 3 million data points.

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These data points were then processed and converted into about 7,000 resistivity points spread across the area down to a depth of approximately 100 meters.

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At the start of a survey, a few calibration flights need to be flown, and then, before each flight there is a series of equipment checks that happen.

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Post-flight, the field cruise check that data quality and at the end of the day it is uploaded to the office geophysicist for further review.

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Once it is accepted, preliminary data can be forwarded to a cloud within 24 to 48 h on completion of the survey.

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The data is then converted into the threed model and provided to the client.

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Within about 6 weeks.

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Alright! So now that we have received our data package from Skytam, we, we took the data and dropped it into a geophysical software called Oasis Montage.

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This only produced the the same strike that the helicopter, that instrumentation, was flown in, so only we only received north-south profiles from this data, and up here is the cross section in the this is cross-section, or Profile.

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Number 2 from the flight transects, and so our our field goal posts, where we know that that Tc is migrating off-site is in between Dw. 77 and Tw.

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105 located up here, so, as you can see, it's we have a large area and we're trying to look at something that's pretty small, because we tried to cover that 800 acre area.

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So it's it's hard to follow the subsurface features in this manner, and very difficult to interpolate between the stacks to twod image that you can see in the lower right the simulated flow path we had that we had projected it's laid on top.

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This was you? Can start. You can kind of see some bounding areas, but it's loosely correlated at best.

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And so we knew this wasn't going to get us to our ultimate goal.

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So we modeled it 3D. And the the figure on the left is attempting to show the the 2 dimension north-south, trending profiles, and how we interpolate it into a.

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3D. Block that you can see up behind here.

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So that 3D. Grid interpolation was performed using a minimum tension splining algorithm within the Earth vision modeling software.

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And so now that we have a 3D. Volume or block of data that's been interpolated.

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Now we need to ground truth that data by calibrating the resistivity values from the survey to known groundwater conveyance features such as the bedrock and the water bearings, zone.

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And that's why we we intentionally overlapped part of our site area so that we had the capability for this calibration.

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So after the 3D model was calibrated, we could slice vertically in any orientation or configuration across that block, including nonlinear trance, sex, and to be able to look at the subsurface as shown in this fence diagram here on the right so most of our

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cross sections that we sliced into the Mono ran perpendicular to to what we were trying to see.

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Our simulated flow path. So you can even see kind of here this Y-shaped coming down here is our nonlinear path.

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That. Yeah. Alright, that we had simulated as part of the topographic lows in that area.

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And these we're attempting to highlight the potential paleo channels that we were seeing on site.

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As it continued to the off-site locations, as these flow paths would be the primary conveyance mechanism, where we would be most likely to see or pick up readings if we had to see in the groundwater.

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So I know there's a this is a pretty busy slide.

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There's a lot of information on here. And this is basically sums up our geophysical interpretation of the survey.

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Where, in the upper left, here our profiles, a.

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Through D, and these are north-south profiles that that are on site, and they intersect existing wells and.

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And then the the cross section. Your Profile.

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I is a continuation of that plume center line that was on site.

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So there is a little bit of overlap here, but it's projecting and extrapolating out onto the off-site area.

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So that is our most likely probable flow path. Leaving the site.

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But where does it go from there? And where does it take a turn?

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And cross-sections, profiles, E and F. Here are highlighted here in map view, and they they converge and truncate into the cross section below here, which is a profile.

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G, and these are our most likely flow paths that we that we have off-site.

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And but again, this, this area up above this black line, here the property boundary for Usda.

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We are unable to do any sort of invasive investigation on this site.

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So we would have to look beyond that site when we do, put or install our 6 wells, and in this bottom cross section here is just to show that the Am.

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Data is, is pretty spot on where we have shale and clays.

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Up above this this dry, loose sandstone is indicated on the boring log, and then under lane by more clays and sharedes.

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So together. This, the interpretation of these profiles indicate the most probable groundwater flow paths, and and they verify that the collection of subsurface data is feasible from the air with no boots on the ground.

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So the overarching goal for conducting this airborne survey is to have some direction of where we should place these 6 wells in this swath of land where we didn't really have an idea of of where the groundwater flow is going to go, especially when we didn't

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have access right across the road where we could track it and drill in a step out.

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Approach. So so we've placed our, our, our primary just mouse.

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It's funny. Okay, we we placed our number one drilling point right across the border where we have access to place a well.

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And I know we. I've said 6 wells, and I have 9 wells up here, but this is going to be an iterative process, and after we drill the first question, Did we encounter groundwater?

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If we did, did, we or after we do? A 24 turnaround time?

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Does that groundwater have tce in it? And answering those questions will guide us to how we would move out in our drilling process.

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But we've positioned most of them around that G profile where it's most likely that we will, that we will see groundwater, or at least the the channel or the conveyance mechanism for that groundwater body as a this unconfined zone is very distinctive

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as a purplish, weathered clay. Sitting on top of a black shale so we'll be able to tell if we're in the right area.

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And so these these wells have yet to be installed. We'll be doing that in a few months, and ultimately we will.

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We will verify whether this Aem was successful. We feel confident that it's going to be, and that we will be able to place their wells with intention rather than hope.

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And back to Doug.

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Thanks, Goby. I'm just going to talk about a few different sort of survey design considerations in this example.

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Survey was flown in Indian Wells Valley, California, to map the aquifer and to update the hydrologic flow model, and we can see this is the flight path here, and we can see in the lower left it's a much wider line spacing and this

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would be flown for a more regional overview of the area in the central area, where we have a region of interest.

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We did infill lines to get much more horizontal detail, and you also note that we flew in multiple different line directions.

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And that's just taking into account the local geological strike across the across the region of interest.

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Nonlinear transacts can also be flown.

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In this case they were carefully planned to go over areas of interest as well to avoid the numerous infrastructure in the area.

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It's important to note on this type of survey layout.

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Although the lateral resolution is going to be quite low. Vertical resolution along these lines is the exact same as we showed in the more detailed example today.

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System. Selection is also important. And it depends upon the goals of the survey whether it's for aquifer studies or bedrock mapping reconstruction, infrastructure, mapping.

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We're delineation of acid-mind drainage, or even just mineral exploration.

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We can see in the top panel the results from a near surface mapping system, and you can see subtle, resistive details on these hills.

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Near surface, and some subtle conduct, a flat-line bodies in the central region.

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Deeper mapping system shown in the lower panel did a very poor job of resolving these features, but it did pull out some nice conductive areas of interest at depth.

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So this is kind of what sort of resolution you can get, depending on which system you're picking.

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So in order to help optimize your survey, we will run some pre-survey modeling.

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To help select your your proper system.

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Hey!

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So thank you, and don't play gloves with hope placed with intention.

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All right. Any questions right again. If you're in the room, raise your hands.

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Go ahead! Bobby!

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Thank you for the presentation we have in ours, who are very much interested in subsurface characterization.

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My question. Now, using this technology of electromagnetic properties, it's impacted by pathology and structure as well as neurology.

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So. It is very sensitive to that. And the question is, typically what we do.

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You establish background in area not impacted by Tca, so which is near that area which is with similar.

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Ethology, similar structure, and so on, and minorology. And then you try to compare the difference, and then you overlap that kind of features for that area which is, we call it, unimpacted versus the other impacted area.

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So that question. If you have done that, and what candle background features that you establish in order to establish the electromagnetic model?

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I realised that you relied on some kind of wealth that they are dear to his service, destruction that would be good to look at an impacted area.

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On similar technology and structure and try to compare it versus when you have, you know, the Tca contamination.

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Yeah. The a, yeah, we weren't identifying whether Tce was present or not.

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We were just trying to identify the paleo channels that continued from on site to off-site, as it would be the bounding channel that the groundwater be flowing at.

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I think I know what you're getting at with. You can use an Am survey for like mineral exploration.

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For example, and and there you're just looking for contrasting differences and and not necessarily like a before and after, like a background.

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And then post cause we're not. We're not changing anything.

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We're not doing anything different. And we wanted to complete the survey all at once, and I will mention this whole survey was done in an hour and 50 min, and which is awesome.

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I know there's a lot of free time and post-processing time.

00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:05.000
Excuse me, or to actually collect the data in less than 2 h.

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It's pretty incredible. Does that answer your question? Yeah, somehow.

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But okay, anyway, that's all. Could have discussion here. Do you have yeah, I was going to say, Gee, fiscal mapping, we're not mapping the Tc directly.

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We're just mapping the aquifer, and that happens with a lot of our targets.

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We're not trying to identify the target. But just the paleo channels.

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Or even meryl exploration. We don't actually look for gold.

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We look for the structures that will host the gold. So, as Colby said, as long as we're flying in areas where we don't think it's there and across areas, we can see that contrast.

00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:48.000
Cool. Okay. Thank you. All right. I see a question in the back.

00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:57.000
Jim Cummings. I can reinforce a couple of the points, and it's different than your electromagnetic.

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The first is, you're to be complemented for finding the Paleo channel, we see too many sites where they are depicting the plumes as blobs, and are not really attacking the plume cores.

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Some wonderful Canadian works suggest that 80% of the mass in a particular plume is likely to be in 10 or 20% of the cross-section area.

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So again, we'd like to see people doing more of this delineation of the plume course.

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The other thing that you to be committed for is your recirculation, because it?

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You know the difficulty of, in fact, delivering reagents.

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So we'd like to see more of this use of recirculation for Institute of Chemical Oxidation.

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.000
But the question I wanted to pose is that the people who have tried to do recirculation?

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It's very easy to say injection and extraction, and varying those, but we're seeing some folks have some difficulty changing a well from one configuration to the other.

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Especially in injection. Sometimes it's more difficult if you start out with a well doing injection.

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To then try to extract from it because of the way it propagates the fines out away from the wellb.

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Did you have any problems in switching your wells in your recirculation mode?

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And if you did have any problems how did you overcome them?

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Okay, so your injection extraction question, we have.

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So some of our wells are monitoring wells.

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We will not inject on. Those we will only extract.

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All the other wells or treatment wells, and will do both at different times, depending on if they're needed.

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For that reason. So there has been some some problems with injection Wells, where you'll have some of the sodium permanganate that precipitates near the screen, and a lot of times just you can develop them.

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And we've been able to extract on them again.

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I think the majority of our issues were the depth of the saturated zone.

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So most of our site is 8 to 12 feet, but there are some up into the 2025 feet saturated zone.

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Our 6 inches to a foot, saturated, and we can't extract from those that have a low volume of water.

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We can only inject, but then, when you inject you get more of that, you get a little bit of mounting, and then you get precipitation of the sodium per mangana kind of creating a shell around the the well.

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But again we can. We can redevelop those to get that communication again.

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:58.000
Is that? Answer your question, and what was your first part the eighty-twenty 28 I was complimenting you on the fact that you were, in fact, able to delineate your paleo channels.

00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:06.000
We have too many sites where the conceptual side models that are presented by the consultants show a rather undifferentiated blog, and some wonderful work.

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For some Canadian folks 5 or 10 years ago, that hasn't been implemented as well as we think it should, is that the their rule, based on a study of a number of sites, was it 80% of the mass in a particular plume?

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It's likely to be in 10 or 20% of the cross sectional area using a mass flux kind of a characterization.

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And I would surmise that the picture you showed of your plume cores.

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It may have even been 90 to 90, 10. Right? Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that.

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And that's why we want to locate these paleo channels.

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Because if we drill l literally 20 feet to the side we could miss it, or it could be 15 parts per 1 billion.

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And then then be non-detect 15 feet away.

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So, yeah, the paleo channels and hitting that centerline is crucial.

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In this case, and and then I think once we'd found it, we would get more funding to hone in on.

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How wide is this now? So now we know how much distance it traveled down, and we can start to really constrain and and actually encapsulate this plume and have a good look.

00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:32.000
Thorough understanding.

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All right. Thank you. I think we're going to wrap up the Q.

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Wait. I see one more portion. Sure.

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Thank you for your presentation, Erica, to Filipa from Papadopoulos and associates.

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I have a question about the density of like urban structures that you can apply this type of method to.

00:43:52.000 --> 00:44:02.000
So this area is pretty sparsely there. It appears to be.

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There's no structures. You know how how densely populated but of an urban or suburban area.

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Could you use this geophysical technique?

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So this was flown again, and you can see we have tried to avoid all the population.

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We're restricted to the fact that we can't fly over buildings, anything.

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So some of the earlier examples that were under neighborhoods, we wouldn't be able to fly over as well.

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Power lines can interfere with our system a bit. So there is that consideration. And even things in here in California. If the farmers are out in the fields, we're not allowed to fly over. So we'd have to kind of take a look at an area to determine whether it's worthwhile to fly.

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I just wanna make a quick comment from the first talk, and then Colin, and mention that his client had lost faith in the geophysics.

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There a bit which brought a bit of a tear to my eye.

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But the solution was just understanding the method and how it applies to your target.

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So I think it's important when you collect your physical data that you work with your contractor afterwards.

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If it didn't give you the results you expected, because they might be able to help.

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You understand the local conditions, or why it didn't work, or why it did work.

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So I think that's a very important loop to close.

