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Thanks for hanging in there till the end.

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Today I've really enjoyed all the talks it's been really exciting to be a part of this.

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I'm gonna be presenting today on web application-based, digital conceptual site models.

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It's a tool and a technology that we've been developing for a little while.

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Now at Burns, Mcdonald really excited about it, and my name is Colin Planck.

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20 years, a little over 20 years of experience in the environmental industry, and spent the last 50 or so of that developing site.

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Conceptual models, employing environmental sequencing, artigraphy, co-authors with Mike and Rick on that 2,017 EPA.

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Best practices document and a lot of what I'm going to talk about today comes from that.

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It's sort of the next step in taking those Csm elements.

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And really making them more widely available to the team and streamlining.

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Some of the workflows that we've used in that Ess Csm development process.

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And I said all that here because I didn't want to dwell on this slide, because it's really scary to see your face.

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This big, but it does demonstrate that if supplied with one, I'm able to tie and wear a necktie.

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So presentation goals today demonstrated technology that I think has changed the way that we'll use and deliver Csms.

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And I want to give kind of a hands-on.

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Demo Kent is doing away with his good.

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Oh, you're gonna see me tired later at the end.

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Give you a hands-on or a sort of a live action.

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Demo of the standard web application that we're using internally and with our clients called the digital site management tool at the very end of the day to day, we're gonna go out on a limb and try to do a live technology demo here.

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So that could be exciting. So this is something that we received an environmental business journal, technical merit award for this last year, sort of that.

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And just something about the timing of all this.

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It's long been sort of held in best management, practice or guidance.

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That life cycle, conceptual site models are a big goal.

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Right, so not just producing summaries of sight, understanding, and then putting it on a shelf.

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But you know initiating a Csm. At the beginning stages of the Project life Cycle building on that Csm.

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As Ri data comes in the door. Continuing to flesh that out as you test the hypotheses built in your in your in your baseline Csm, and onward and onward through the project lifecycle.

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And so this is always been the goal. But really making that practice has been a challenge, because we're, you know, multiple consultants coming in through multiple contracts, passing on.

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Ri. Reports that have a Csm element of them passing on.

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Maybe even a specific Csm document. But they're kind of locked up as a Pdf, and so I think the timing for this technology is really at a fortunate point here, because we've all seen dashboards they're becoming more and more

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ubiquitous right? Everyone's project meetings include some infographics in a dashboard or the use of different state websites.

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And so we're all really familiar with this technology and it's a great time to apply that to the delivery and the use of conceptual site models so that's where the innovation in this stands.

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Right is not in. Oh, hey! We've learned how to use power bi or web app builder.

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Csm elements to our team. And I think that's really powerful right now.

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So this is a. This is a figure that was put out a couple years ago, horsed it all, and groundwater monitoring and remediation and kind of summarizes again.

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You know where we're where we're at as an industry.

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And so this concept of, you know as Csm maturity grows, you know, it becomes more important to move it past a simple file cabinet Csm, kind of the semi derogatory term for having your Csm.

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And a Pdf. And instead start to integrate your Csm elements with a data structure and a database that allows you to bring legacy and new data together.

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In a, in a queryable database that gives your gives your Csm some sort of rapid update ability all the way to.

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Er technologies to where you're instrumenting points on your Csm with live data streams and sort of creating that kind of glamorous term of a digital desktop twin.

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And so a challenge with this and the digital Csm has always been sort of fragmentation.

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So we use lots of different data types across lots of different platforms.

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And I think you know this web app. Csm gets us past a little of that, or a good chunk of that.

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It's still early times. With some of this you'll see that there are some things that were great about it, and some things that don't.

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So here's some. Here's here's a summary diagram from Wright, Patterson, Air Force base that we put together a while ago in a pfas, related Ri. Right?

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And so these would be some common static Csm elements that would be combined together.

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Your potentiometric contours, your pfast data, spatially shown as points it's sort of a heat map type diagram, maybe a cross-section network.

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Some flow errors on here, portraying sort of process based understanding groundwater flow right?

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And so if you look at the platforms used to put this together, and then, additionally, time series of contaminant data.

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So, if you consider the platforms to put this hodgepodge of information together, you're calling up.

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Excel on your screen. We've all been there pulling up you know the Pdf of the site map.

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Maybe looking at the access database to understand what the data is that you're plotting on your excel plots here, and which point it corresponds with bringing in another cadm for your potentiometric map looking at how those overlay may be complaining to some

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junior member of your staff that you can't read any of the damn labels, cause it's zoom so far out.

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Bringing up your cross section as another Pdf.

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And trying to relate that to your cross sectionsection location on the map.

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And that's another application. And to create that application you're using yet another tool.

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And so aye, aye, right like, next thing you know you've got, even though you've got 2 screens.

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You've got 30 applications open and just when you get them all open and you're about to reach that point where you understand something, it frees up.

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And and it's time for a Martini.

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So, then, so I think these web applications provide an off-the-shelf solution they're not perfect at this stage, but this is really exciting thing is that you can get all these materials together.

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Do some of the groundwork, and you can supply this basic capability to all your team members, and all they need is access to a web browser right?

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So that's the other really key thing, right? There's a little bit of.

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So the goal with designing these is to make them all the same right.

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We try to make ours pretty similar, so that once you've trained up on one of these web applications, you're familiar with this toggle switch sort of technology.

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And you know, sort of format. So you don't have to relearn this tool every time.

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But there's pretty limited learning timeframe, and it's pretty friendly.

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Your team members are just driving something via their web browser.

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Okay. So I think I've already explained this. You know.

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What does the web application be? Csm. All web application is a program that utilizes web browsers.

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There's a lot of web apps already in use in the Federal space, and the goal of a web app based.

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Csm is to make your current Csm. Available to all team members via, simply there, there!

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But web tool, so so I think we're missing a couple slides here.

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Actually, but so this may not be my most recent version that we loaded up this morning, but no, I guess it is, anyway.

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So think about this. Right? So that we're going to look at an example here.

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Shortly. We've developed these for a lot of sites, and the idea is to take this through from a preliminary Csm, provide a tool that's available to the project team throughout the lifespan.

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We've developed these at over over 15 locations nationwide so far, using them to guide remedial investations, remedial alternatives, analysis and provide support to risk assessors and and provide support to risk assessors and so just a smattering of different looks at these you know, we we try

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to keep them in a similar dashboard sort of format, with maybe some different infographics or color schemes depending on the goal of the site.

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Some of these are designed for for managing excavations, and providing sort of summary statistics on excavation, completion, others are designed more like what I'm going to pride the example of today with an active webmap panel that displays iso concentration data cross-section location data allows you to on

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a per well or boring basis. Plot, time, series of product, thickness or analytical results or water levels.

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Etc., and we're using these all over.

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We're again. This is an example from Shepherd Air Force Base, where we're combining basic Gis layers, utility corridors and things to better understand sampling strategies.

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Related to. You know pfastelineation and Ri.

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Investigation, and lastly, we've developed this and used it at Wordswept Air Force Base recently.

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So with this, I'm gonna skip past. These are these are the baked, the the backup slides, in case everything goes to hell. And I have to go back to something.

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Static, so I'm going to skip now to in theory.

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Skip now to the web browser that I have queued up here in the background.

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And so, if you were provided a link to your web app. And incidentally, I went back and forth about sharing the wordsmith example and sharing this.

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And sharing this demo that we developed, using the urbum's data schema.

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And I'm sharing this one because this is available to all of you as a link in the in the electronic file.

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You can go to this kind of silly looking island of Pfoa.

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Oh, slide, and you can click on. Go to the island and you can go to this dashboard and try it out on your own but this is a fictitious site again.

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We called it the Island of Pfo. Oh, and I want to just sort of go through some of the basics of the web application based.

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Csm, here to introduce you to it. So you see, there's a central map.

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Pane here, right? So this is like looking at Google Earth.

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And we've got some points queued up here, and and then there are 3 other data panes here on the on the left, or control panels.

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I should refer them. There's a basic layers control panel here with multiple tabs for geology contamination areas, historical imagery.

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And then, like a pfizer, compound information.

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Widget, and so you can get around here.

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I'm gonna just scooch this over a little bit between all these different data layers.

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That are served up via gis. Right? So this is basic basically sharing some of those static map elements in a layers file here.

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And so let's see here, let's go to geology.

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So I'm gonna start adding some things to this map here, and I'm gonna zoom in.

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This is A, we're gonna make a really busy map here.

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And then we're going to pair it down to something that's manageable.

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So from a geologist perspective. The first thing I want to see is, where do I have?

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Csm cross section. So I'm going to put those on here.

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And these are some basic Csm elements. Now, I'm going to add to this a shallow potentiometric contour map.

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Start to kind of build up the site picture, in theory, looks like these layers.

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Yeah, there they are, in theory and out. Now, indeed, in practice, I'm going to add Pfos contours right?

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So here's sort of say you have some existing iso concentration contours that had been generated by your team in Gis.

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You're sharing those up to the to the webmap.

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You got sort of a busy picture developing here. Maybe we want to add to this and go back here some site labels right so now you're quickly getting into this map.

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That would, if this was a static figure, you would just be going nuts trying to portray this and it's going to take a 1 million different map panels to get around the aisle of Pfa.

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So. One thing is, of course you can zoom in and try to alleviate some of that.

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The scales. The labels all scale dynamically, and so on.

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The next thing you can do is try to pair down through this data with some of these data queries here.

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And that's what these toggle switches are about.

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Is this is produced. So, instead of having to know some Gis sort of basic commands we've set those up already so that you can pair down in here and just say, Show me only the locations with Pfos results.

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And I can turn that toggle switch on, and it'll get rid of a small subset of these I can then say, you know, show me only location.

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Results from, say, you know, monitoring wells and boring locations.

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Health data sets. You toggle on that switch and you can see a good number of our points have gone away.

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So we're starting to simplify that simplify that map a little bit.

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I also like to have things like, show me where the high-quality boring logs are, and apparently most of the points go away on this map at this moment.

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That's typical of our of our sites, you know, or you might go through here and start to talkgle down by.

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Say, I want to understand wells by depth. So here we have a screen interval switch setup here, so we'll say, minimum screen, a top of 10 feet and then 20 feet.

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So just the wells that are screened within a certain interval.

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You can sort of start to slice down through the data, begin to understand where your data lies.

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With respect to the currently mapped, currently mapped plume, geometry and so on.

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Right basic ability to kind of get into and interrogate the data.

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So I'm gonna zoom in now on this central area here.

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And you know, start thinking about other Csm elements. Right?

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So now you've kind of populated this map with some plumes that are of some sort of somewhat in agreement with the potentiometric contours.

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Maybe not a little bit. So maybe you want to start talking about this with the Remedial Action Board or the Regulators, and so on, and start thinking through some of these problems with your project team in terms of data gaps, analysis and so on.

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So you can start to interact with the map now clicking on these points produces a produces a little information window on the wells.

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And all this is is, it's an intersection of that data point with a bunch of underlying Gis layers that we've set up some code to produce a live English sort of summary.

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So it says, here you know, gives you the well. Id total depth screen interval tells you the soil location, etc., etc.

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What crash sites it's associated with, if you scroll down further, you can set up information widgets that provide for you some summary statistics or summary diagrams of, say, Pfos, concentrations and so on.

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So you can start to sort of access data interactively with the map, we can click here on a cross section, pull up the cross section.

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So here we have an Ess Cross section that pops up in theory.

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Serves to you in the, in the web browser.

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You can pull that down simultaneously. Look at that with your with the rest of your map, start to relate.

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Well positioned, spatially on the map to well positioned on a cross section.

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We're going to come back to that here, but you can look at.

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Say, your well screens versus the interpreted hydrostratographic units that your geologist may have set up in in their ess analysis.

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I'm gonna drag this back up here now to the top.

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So you can really start to tear around in the Csm and the nice thing is that, you know. Say, if I'm a geologist working on cross-sections, and I've got some ideas some new ideas that I want to share with the team, I output a new cross-section location.

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to the Webmap, it appears in the webmap, it appears in the web application simultaneously I connect my recent Pdfs to that, and I can share with you my draft and my cross section at the end of the day.

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And you can be seeing that, and in near real time, etc.

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There's also some other tools here that are useful in these web applications, like the historical imagery, swiper, tool.

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You can. If you have a bank of of historic imagery, you can cue that up in here and begin to try to understand changes at your site.

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Potential locations of legacy or historic sources relative to your current plumes, and so on.

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And this again just is an out-of-the-box widget that is available to incorporate into your into your webcsms.

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And let's see here. So let's say we were interested in.

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I'm going to turn off this.

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Turn off this historic image here.

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So kind of whipping through a lot of this, but you can see there's a lot of functionality in here you're able to start kind of building your maps as you need to.

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Widget, so you can annotate the map and capture that.

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I'll show you that shortly. There's also some nice interactive tools that can be developed to allow you to look at.

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Say forensics, data related to Pfos on the fly related to these little interactive lassoing tools. Here.

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So we're gonna go here and look at smattering of pfas ratios across the plume here, and sort of look at for coherent changes in compounds just qualitatively.

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So you can do that on an individual by individual basis, or you can do that in aggregate.

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You can also output. If I zoom in here.

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This is fairly useful. If you want to get some of your data into other software, you can go to another query, Widget here and select certain points on the map to.

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Capture Tabular Output.

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Maybe there we go. So it's going to zoom in on that, and then you can go and export that data.

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Provides a little summary here to you as well, but I'm gonna try save it.

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So here goes. So it pops up here, produces a a.

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I don't know if it's opening it or not.

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But yeah, there it goes, produces a tabular data set for the for the area that you're that you're looking at.

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So you can capture information in that way as well. So we find it really useful, for you know this is all hooked up to via Fme.

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To a an equis or an accuracy database.

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We just use cuts of data from urbums, bring them in and internalize them, and then access them.

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In that way, but once that hookup is created, new data coming into erpums becomes available to the web application as soon as we as soon as we as soon as your project team gets it.

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So now we might sort of look at these and kind of consider, you know.

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Maybe some of the processes at the site. So let me clear this here and let's go back to point locations.

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And so now the last little bit of functionality here that is useful.

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I guess I'm not obscuring anything with this little menu here is to look at.

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Say, you know, we had this cross section up. Say, we're looking at.

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Well, 2767, and well, 2,808, and they appear to be on the same flow path, but with slightly different concentrations.

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If we go and we look at that well pair here on our cross section, you know, and you're starting to think through the geology of your site.

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You know. Here we see well, 27, 6, 7 is screened it's got some pretty high concentrations. It's partly across the little Aquitard into this little incision here.

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Well, 2804 is screened more deeply, but is out of this channel.

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So now, is there anything else in the is there anything else in the in the analytical data that suggests that perhaps they're in differing hydrostratigraphic units right?

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So maybe we see different.

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Analytical behavior. So we're going to go down here to our chart selection here we're going to select.

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Well, 2767. We're gonna look at Pfos.

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Let me turn that on, and we'll see. You know, the time series of data the point gets highlighted on the map and now let's compare it to say, well, 2,804, which was screened in a slightly different zone.

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So let's see, let me go in here and type and right now this is set up to be well pairs that we're comparing.

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You can put as many of these infographic widgets in here as you like.

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Those other projects with high-resight characterization data, we put in like a panel of 6 to display multiple ech, hpt data sets side by side and sort of a virtual cross section.

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So here we'll turn on the info widget here for this one, and so you can see, you know, differing behavior.

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There. And if we consider water levels, this is with respect to depth in the well, just to make the scale easy to look at you know, differing water, level behavior, you can start to try to use your basic time series and your basic understanding of the geology to investigate problems spatially and then capture some of

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that you know, as you work through problem areas, you can start to capture some of that with annotations on the map, you know. Perhaps.

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And this is a pretty effective use of the tool. I've used this with Regulators to come to consensus on investigation points and their collection in working meetings.

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So you can go on here. Add points. Say, you know, add a little annotation that you know.

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Vap 20 to, you know. 20 to 40 feet. Whatever the group had kind of agreed upon.

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Maybe annotate. Add some extra flow arrows, or whatever the group.

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Why the group was thinking this, you know, was an appropriate location to cite additional points of investigation, and then you can capture that as a georeferenced hard copy map or a Pdf.

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And this is gonna cook for a minute while it does that.

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So, yeah, so let's see here.

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So let's do a a 4 landscape different sometimes.

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This takes little time when it's sharing over the over the web.

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Yeah, so these things are very open-ended. There's another example I have of a site here that sort of demonstrates some of the use of this in a high-res site.

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Characterization campaign, and these were mip hpt points.

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Here also, you know. So we use this to track progress in the field, so as the because the field teams were equipped with webmap linked tablets, they were able to update a sampling plan from status of incomplete complete complete complete as they completed sampling at

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these individual points, they're able to upload you know, field photos to these points.

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And the cool thing about all that is that you have all this data coming in, and you would be looking at it in the context of your existing site.

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Data. Pretty exciting tool, the, you know, if I typed in here, this is kind of the utility for some of that.

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9, 1, 1, 87. You know an example of some of these using these with high-risk characterization data that comes in.

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Let's do another one. They were.

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It's useful for making on the fly.

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Bluebine. Load line one.

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On the fly decisions based on the data that's coming in the door.

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Here. You can toggle these on. See where they're located on the map.

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If I stretch this out a little bit.

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If we look at. So here we can display Ec curves for these 3 wells.

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Look at the hpt pressure, etc., and then relate that to, you know, Xsd results, and so on, and start to help guide real-time decisions using the web application and you know the cross-sections, etc., that are here at your fingertips to help you know the field team decide where to

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go next with their sampling aside, so.

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Let me go back to.

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The presentation here when you go, and you're looking at your.

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When you're looking at your electronic slide deck.

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If I start from this slide.

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This is the this is the link to that web application, demo.

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This is a publicly-facing demo that you can access.

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It's a you kind of have to acknowledge when you click on it.

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That it's a fictitious site, and and then go from there.

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So just a couple words about the use of the or the design, or the how this thing comes about right?

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So this is a sort of farmed table analogy, for you know everybody likes the idea of a technology like this, but it takes some discipline in the background, right?

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And the and the heavy lifting associated with this, particularly with respect to a legacy site, is in wrestling with your getting your arms around all your legacy data and getting all of that into a standardized database structure or data schema and this is where air force programs like the erpms

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program really give them a leg up. Nyrus, with the Navy is close behind on that Fudgcam is good for some of the analytical data, but those efforts that have kind of been stewing now for some time in the background as as a necessary evil as some of us geologists might perceive

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it are really what are going to allow us to really start integrating stuff quickly, right?

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And if you have a new project, the key thing is just to get religion about that right off the bat.

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Colin, one as the name for their monitoring wells.

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Stick on your labs for using the standard Edd type, deliverables, etc.

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So the idea is that you take your raw project data.

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You do some data governance and data management to get it into a database or sort of this marketplace structure, you may have some specialized software like we like to use leapfrog or rockware to create our cross sections and manage lithologic data and geophysical data and

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it might access that database back and forth the whole key to this is that it's served up through Asri Arcm.

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Right. So this is all. All your data has to come through some sort of hub and Ezri is about as ubiquitous a software package as we have in our industry.

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You if you don't have it. A client, a consultant, that you have access to does, I mean, it's nearly as available as something like Omega Microsoft word in our world.

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So data is accessed and displayed in our jazz pro.

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And that's really where the leg work is done, and then it's pushed out with some Fme technology and other data massaging pushed out to Artgis online and fed to a web application based.

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Csm that's created in that web. Application or experience.

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Builder, and there's a range of other potential software types you could use to to do this.

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What we have found to be the most flexible to date has been the web experience builder with with Esri's tools, as far as the data deliverable goes, associated with this, you know, so right now, we're this is where we're kind of a little bit in the wild West.

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Right for private clients. It's far easier than it is with Department of Defense.

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Because we don't we're not dealing with quite the level of data security and sort of firewall issues.

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But at the very least you can get your data structure together, get everything put together, get Frankenstein built on your end, get all that coding together, and then, when it comes time to deliver, provide the pieces and step away right I'm not going to or you all with

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too many flow charts here, at the end of a long day, I get you all worked up with data visualization only to cool you down with flowcharts.

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But this is currently kind of a visualization. This is where you also have to be brave enough to start dealing with data governance types who love this kind of thing.

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:34.000
But the it's kind of a visualization of how this works for us right now is within, within, with a lot of our clients.

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We're hosting and creating the Rjis group and developing the web app.

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Here creating a viewer only web application, and then inviting users to this, and preferably the clients already have an Agl account right?

00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:54.000
And then there's no cost to them to access this they don't have an agl account. You can.

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They can be provided one at a rate of $150 a year for access. Right?

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So it's pretty minimal. Given that there are other boutique solutions out there that are, you know, twelvek a year, for, you know, solution, or whatever.

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So there is a data hosting fee. If you're purchasing shared organizational space on Agol, and there's a licensing fee if you don't have access to Esri tools yourself right?

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So it's at least a a technology fee with the consultant or a $600 data hosting fee on Agol, and then $100.

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It's at least $700 a year for 1 one user outside of your project team.

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To, or it can be made available to you just for the project duration under a technical service fee and etc., with the Dod.

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This is kind of currently like I was saying, this is kind of currently how it goes.

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We develop it here on our end, and then, when it comes time to hand off, there has to be sort of a one-time data and coding share where this goes up and over the firewall to the to the Geo base team or Afghans team and they put it back together, on their end, or you know

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dealing with the Nyrus folks on their Js contractors, etc.

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Something that we've developed internally and as we've seen it as like a real viable future for Csms, we've put it out there for Csm delivery and now it's time to, you know, work out the handoffs.

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And so on, right. The idea isn't that we've inserted ourselves as a consultant in here forever to maintain or serve your data.

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No one. None of us wants to be a software developer or data server.

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We want to provide a viable platform for Csm Development.

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And this is something all of us can be chasing after.

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So some other options here you can look at in the in the slide deck.

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But basically it's all kind of hinges around where the project data resides, where the web application is placed for perpetuity, and whether or not the client has has every licenses to begin with, or not and so again, it's just sort of moving that project location around

00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:23.000
here, etc. So I think I'm pretty close to the end of my time again, so I hope you saw that this is, you know, it's using technology.

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That's quote unquote, freely available to all of us. Right?

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:28.000
We're all using Ezri technologies. We're all familiar with these dashboard approaches.

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If you're going to national Geologic Map database for the Usgs, you're accessing a web app.

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If you're going to Michigan's, deqeues, Geo. Webface, you're accessing a web app.

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These are all using this same technology. And so it's time to start incorporating it into our workflows and giving our team all their materials.

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In one place, and I think, really the sky is the limit.

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With these development is open-ended. There's, you know, you're seeing newer and newer stuff all the time with it.

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So thank you. What's that?

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All right. Any questions in the room.

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Because I have questions online.

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Alright! Kyle, I'll lead in with some of the ones that are here online.

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Someone wanted to talk about managing these from a record-keeping perspective.

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They note that they need to keep files stored in a special system for legal purposes.

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And it's unclear how such a dynamic web page would be saved.

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So, yeah, so if they're if they are saving the materials, we document everything in our own file structure. To begin with, right?

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So it is still elements of the static Pdm.

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Of the static Pdf type report that is saved and available, and or data tables that are saved and available.

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But it's not a 1 million excel files.

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It's a single singular equis or access database.

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It's a rigorous file structure where you're putting all of your visual files cross-sections, etc.

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So you're archiving all of that material. And then accessing it with the tool.

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So you could have a file structure that reflects your need for archival history and have the tool be accessing those elements.

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Ok. One of the attendees wanted to confirm. Would all data entered into the web interface need to be in an access or equis friendly format?

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How would Boris log data be entered? So that it's in a format that could be queried in.

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Joined. Yeah. So the answer is, it doesn't have to be.

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You can slam these together with a 1 million different excel formats.

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But that's highly unrecommended, because it's a lot of work so you want to get it into one access or one equis data structure, it's up to you to kind of decide on your data schema.

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And there are some out there templates out there that you can use, and then lithology data is that's partly why things like the Uscs code, I think, came into use was that it gave an easy way to capture lithologic information but we'd like to move past that

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to things like our graphic green size. Log coding where we're capturing more than just silts, silt clay, etc.

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Capturing visual estimates of percentages, things like that.

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And that actually is also a big motivator behind some collaborative work we're doing with Jesse Meyer and a sort of Estp.

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And Estcp program here this year, where we're talking about graphical logging schemes and the whole goal on that is to move past paragraphs that are hard to archive in databases and move to alpha-numeric sort of AR archiving of that information

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next. Excellent. I see a question in the room, Jim, go ahead.

00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:20.000
Jim, could you turn the mic on? Thank you. Alright.

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Let!

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We will get you a microphone, sir. There we go.

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Bye, I still have a microphone. I always have a microphone.

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Can't let you go like this. Come on, let's get that question in.

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So when you got a whole team of people, can they upload information to this thing all independently?

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Or is it a practical question? Do they have to submit the data to a central repository where someone would perform some quality control checks?

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And also, if you've got a team out in the field, do you have a, for example, a minimum time frame that they're required to update?

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So how do you, as a practical matter? How do you input data so you can have a dynamic? Csm, yeah.

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So so we're exiting the Wild West, where everyone on your team who could get anything on to Agl could update the map.

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And that's the bad and the good of it. We're entering the world of data governance personally, at Berns and Mac. Right now we're experiencing it where we're implementing a lot of stards on making sure everything that goes into Agol has the same data schema and all that and

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it's incredibly cumbersome at the moment to do that, but I think by going through that phase you will ensure higher data quality and so on.

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And so the idea isn't to have a singular staff member.

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But it will be it will. That gateway will narrow to a core group that has to be responsive on that.

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So yes, and but I think that's ultimately a good idea, for from a quality standpoint, and then with project teams, if your team is equipped with field data collector, which is a Gis component that can be or application that can be placed on their tablets, they can be updating points, and you

00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:40.000
will see those changes if that map is fed to your Agl space, you'll see that instantly on the web application map, because it's accesses that same data.

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So that's like 0 timeframe. And they can be connecting photos to those points, etc.

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:53.000
From uploading of things like those Ec. Hbt curves that's usually an overnight process.

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At this point, because how we've done that is just we put a link to a sharepoint at the top of the web application, and every morning we had someone looking at what Dakota had uploaded to the sharepoint, and then they were you know, our person was then taking that tabular data and

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uploading it into the into the database that the widget was accessing.

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So so 24 h turnaround kind of thing, you know.

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You have to have your ducks in a row for that kind of data.

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All right. I just wanted you to know lots of people online for playing along with the demo maps.

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And we're very excited. Oh, cool. Good. Yeah. Any other questions in the room?

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Oh, there we go!

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Okay. I'm not sure if this is only a question for you, Colin, or everyone that's been in the back of my mind, because my navy command is very interested in how we can use artificial intelligence in the future, and with all of this data that's been presented.

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Today, I and my very limited understanding about AI, I I mean, really, I'm a ground 0.

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But I do think it's staged of it is the modeling.

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Go! Ahead! What? What could be the future?

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With AI, yeah, I am. I am not an AI. I have no real.

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I'd open that up to the floor struggle with AI, because, as I've yet to find our eye, you know, real intelligence.

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But yeah.

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Any response?

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My question regarding using new technology for digital twins. And if you can combine digital twins, I understand you tell when you could use 3D, but still you are developing 3D.

00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:05.000
So the question or do you have any plans to consider, adding these 12 points to developing of the conceptual conceptual side model?

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Or you are already applying that. Thank you. So so currently, as far as like data streaming and so on.

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Just an example of that kind of thing, you know.

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There's a little. This is actually sort of the fun part of this map is the, you know.

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So here's an example of a of a webcam that's hooked up and is streaming streaming data to the.

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To this, so you can go to the aisle of before.

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-oh, and see it, but you know anything that can be served up through a web-based like data, logger, or whatever could be streamed.

00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:54.000
These things far as the 3D. Goes, we've yet to really push through that I mean, I think there's some options with our Arcene and others.

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Currently we use Evs and leapfrog for our visualizations, and the best we can do is kind of like.

00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:04.000
Add a tab to these, so you can access the threed visualization with it.

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.000
But it's not truly interactive with the web app, but it will.

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It will get there. And in other applications like in on the engineering side, where some of these tools have been developed in, are further along than on our side.

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:29.000
You know, they typically link. They can link map points to sort of preset fl throughs of Arcene, you know, 3 dimensional depictions, and so on.

00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:34.000
So still early times. But yeah.

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Yeah, mark.

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No, it is not a real place. This is. This is a webcam that's hooked up to Hawaii.

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.000
So we're we're. This is what is it?

00:47:51.000 --> 00:48:01.000
All this is a oh, yes, just an example of how you can stream data off the web.

00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.000
Alright. We got another question.

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The only thing I would say with regard to AI is that it's going to be the same garbage in garbage out.

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So what's going in on the front end, you know, is super important.

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Be diligent about your database management, because turn it loose on, you know, on poor data.

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Then you're gonna get a more resolved.
