WEBVTT NOTE duration:"00:34:01" NOTE recognizability:0.811 NOTE language:en-us NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 7073650f-5b08-4db0-8998-685024f4174b 00:00:03.510 --> 00:00:06.312 Good morning. I'm Michael Powell and NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 1d4dab07-6ef1-4701-bcbc-581c7b958e56 00:00:06.312 --> 00:00:08.180 with Naval Facilities Engineering NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 4c1160b1-dcec-491c-a0cb-34837217b1c7 00:00:08.252 --> 00:00:10.048 Command SW where the regional NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 f683381e-a294-4679-9d4f-e35042f58010 00:00:10.048 --> 00:00:12.304 office for NAFAC in San Diego, NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 f332fd57-e2c9-4224-831c-d9108955e3fc 00:00:12.310 --> 00:00:14.575 I've been with the cleanup NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 d7500b37-4431-4fff-bd68-31ad2ef2e598 00:00:14.575 --> 00:00:17.280 program for 31 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 5b2465b6-9778-4518-9893-d140876bc105 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:18.660 Uh, some of very old salt. NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 8f724b10-fdb6-47da-a513-27fe1e320acd 00:00:18.660 --> 00:00:22.196 I actually know secrets of the IR program NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 fa7fc60b-94f8-4566-ad67-8f4c149b8cf4 00:00:22.196 --> 00:00:25.568 that most people have forgotten at this. NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 45d90120-f713-470f-bf1e-6c3e3429f227 00:00:25.568 --> 00:00:27.212 At this point, I see Matt Spencer. NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 8b7ff5b6-9375-4fe1-be93-b5f9fbc3114c 00:00:27.212 --> 00:00:28.400 He used to work with us. NOTE Confidence: 0.728584635833333 39bf568a-4f42-4eee-96a9-2b055b39eb76 00:00:28.400 --> 00:00:29.508 He's not with EPA. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 daabb822-6d72-4300-b199-dea8c63f2ee5 00:00:33.130 --> 00:00:35.530 You know, just a little presentation NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 3d15a060-eb2f-47a1-b8c9-03b9e87188ad 00:00:35.530 --> 00:00:37.130 disclaimer this this presentation NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 570722cf-486a-42a8-a1d2-27a01099afec 00:00:37.189 --> 00:00:38.833 is really my viewpoint of the NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 d21f5366-c860-453d-b5fe-5e75980a8780 00:00:38.833 --> 00:00:40.619 31 years I've been with nafac. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 cceb439a-b88b-49b6-bbc6-b44935468724 00:00:40.620 --> 00:00:42.990 It's not representative of the agency, NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 002b6b08-2b31-4da0-9fb4-a61b3204c759 00:00:42.990 --> 00:00:45.814 but just my perspective of how I see NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 0b6fa11a-a7ad-4c1d-a760-18749504ae00 00:00:45.814 --> 00:00:49.710 things over the past 30 plus years. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 605eabfa-0eb1-4354-90eb-7c18fbdb5b44 00:00:49.710 --> 00:00:56.026 So when I started with Nafac in in 1990, NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 eeec7b59-1445-4af6-9b6b-1db1b8f3f7e6 00:00:56.030 --> 00:00:57.446 it was really the birth of NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 52e759a0-b562-473f-8167-e88d3ae4185f 00:00:57.446 --> 00:00:58.580 the cleanup program for us. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 ddcd1df2-7ad3-4c74-b967-438cc164eee2 00:00:58.580 --> 00:01:00.550 We were norming and storming. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 de7be2db-cea3-491b-870f-9c7863774a16 00:01:00.550 --> 00:01:02.930 We were hiring a lot of people. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 85af25fe-4c07-4638-a980-05d536a02d0b 00:01:02.930 --> 00:01:04.208 My first day in the office, NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 e9d3ec04-5f82-4761-9c2d-1a30cd8aa47e 00:01:04.210 --> 00:01:05.750 I had to read Cercla, NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 c42c4fac-21e0-4482-8c67-45e016da7e23 00:01:05.750 --> 00:01:07.752 the NCP and I didn't really understand NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 e60c2cf8-cc80-49ce-a955-00700ccd7ab3 00:01:07.752 --> 00:01:09.868 what any of them met at the time, NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 b110b4b6-5a2a-4157-9512-8379c7fc02d8 00:01:09.870 --> 00:01:10.626 but it was. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 e31dda3e-0a77-4d6c-8c8d-51b806af7c00 00:01:10.626 --> 00:01:12.138 It was a good start industry NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 f0a29787-40fd-4d25-b02b-a350a2c2f1c1 00:01:12.138 --> 00:01:14.090 and the Navy were learning how NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 910b81d8-223a-4d80-bd35-a6610e1956b2 00:01:14.090 --> 00:01:15.725 to implement the EPA guidance. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 77acd509-31de-456e-a741-baa45bd529b5 00:01:15.730 --> 00:01:17.774 We were starting to figure out how NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 d8c62a6d-dd61-490c-a45a-a0fc27b3432c 00:01:17.774 --> 00:01:20.319 to do our site inspections or RFS. NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 1c812acf-7aaf-47c4-9cb7-7d9fcbaeb85b 00:01:20.320 --> 00:01:21.472 And at that time, NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 ab87a2c5-638b-431c-8fd6-61ab43df51f9 00:01:21.472 --> 00:01:22.336 innovative technology was NOTE Confidence: 0.778466975909091 a0998d36-e4dd-4755-8149-19b283606b89 00:01:22.336 --> 00:01:23.920 anything other than **** and Hall. NOTE Confidence: 0.763805260555555 fb0a0a17-72c4-4895-8c5e-877ff036e7d3 00:01:26.090 --> 00:01:28.184 And I remember when I started NOTE Confidence: 0.763805260555555 5bc66cac-c46d-4fa5-9ac1-7b7dfc131056 00:01:28.184 --> 00:01:29.580 chlorinated solvents didn't Gray NOTE Confidence: 0.763805260555555 8ab3d082-ef32-42e0-bd60-0bffe4e82a5f 00:01:29.638 --> 00:01:31.886 petroleum sites were a big issue for us. NOTE Confidence: 0.763805260555555 8588a233-b023-47ad-a3e2-8c650e6ac6a0 00:01:31.890 --> 00:01:34.426 So where we are today is a very, NOTE Confidence: 0.763805260555555 2ba3ddfa-6d12-4995-8be1-dbb10607e8cc 00:01:34.430 --> 00:01:36.187 very different from when I first started. NOTE Confidence: 0.93319662 7b85f75b-4b8a-4e3a-b98c-1d6dabdfa258 00:01:38.500 --> 00:01:39.190 So how did? NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 0a649491-f5da-41b1-85d2-61bc9bf095d5 00:01:41.360 --> 00:01:42.320 How did the you know? NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 b5127766-a86d-4e89-904a-6a869190fd80 00:01:42.320 --> 00:01:44.147 I always believe that you should know NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 8ab91acd-a031-4a2e-9ef6-00164cfdceef 00:01:44.147 --> 00:01:46.119 the history of where you've been before NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 414c56d8-68b1-4e6c-a851-077376093856 00:01:46.119 --> 00:01:48.072 you decide where you're going to go NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 8a1a6d10-6c34-483f-acda-914a6d3f2fe1 00:01:48.072 --> 00:01:49.974 because you know there's a lot of NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 62b14f7d-a271-4d9d-b5ae-0b614fc597af 00:01:49.974 --> 00:01:51.585 mistakes that were made that lessons NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 3a5de314-b4ab-4a5f-8d27-b69b00c6f723 00:01:51.585 --> 00:01:53.440 were learned on how to do things. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 b4dfd93d-da10-4640-a9f5-e559820626b1 00:01:53.440 --> 00:01:55.276 And you know, if you don't know that history, NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 4f8a27e7-6085-42ec-b8e9-23555bd60813 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.954 you're kind of doomed to repeat them. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 324e47c4-e9e2-48d6-a01a-7d377bc4fca1 00:01:57.960 --> 00:02:00.138 So in in that, in fact, NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 20c8665f-2bad-4f75-8a45-bec2f6b6709e 00:02:00.140 --> 00:02:02.380 the the innovative technology effort NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 b379d6c3-881d-46a9-a2e8-6e59a18302ea 00:02:02.380 --> 00:02:05.040 got kicked off because Bill Quay, NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 74eab18f-c0f8-46b2-8afd-92a888affdd9 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.595 who is the director of Nafec environmental, NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 b960ee6a-07ea-41a5-b6ae-8b2f15171ca5 00:02:07.600 --> 00:02:09.105 called together all the components NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 7c8abecc-85b5-4103-aba5-25a2a6baf080 00:02:09.105 --> 00:02:10.610 of NAFAC for a meeting. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 b505e8b7-0762-41b3-bd5b-aba4df4a9853 00:02:10.610 --> 00:02:13.162 Support winning in 1992 and said we need NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 b1336595-d7c5-4b77-a0dc-87566152e307 00:02:13.162 --> 00:02:15.627 to figure out how to bring innovative NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 c84650b9-d22a-406a-a684-1b6bd5db9ade 00:02:15.627 --> 00:02:17.883 technology out to the field because NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 77efa5f3-b982-450d-8d8c-f0b72bcc6708 00:02:17.883 --> 00:02:20.457 it's part of his performance appraisal. NOTE Confidence: 0.833992352 e24ec13c-e6ea-4078-9b1c-91b34e540405 00:02:20.460 --> 00:02:21.790 So that's how I got kicked off. NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 6e8c94cd-a173-40b4-939a-3ea3df6c5542 00:02:24.180 --> 00:02:25.554 And you know, I didn't really NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 dc5b7142-7d0a-446d-95f6-49b29d27d526 00:02:25.554 --> 00:02:26.916 think much of it, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 eccd7a70-4981-4d75-8aa0-26bbc75aa9f6 00:02:26.916 --> 00:02:28.700 being a very junior person at the time, NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 2b2ae949-2b63-41fd-b5a6-f84d08e28b56 00:02:28.700 --> 00:02:30.980 but it's kind of kind of I kind of laugh NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 18cc057b-e965-447e-aba3-9bac3f550c2d 00:02:31.047 --> 00:02:33.199 about it like you guys did to think NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 206f8c15-5071-42c9-9cf5-7ee6dcd11e50 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:35.594 that that's how we started to innovative NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 e58947b6-66fa-49e7-81a6-bf16f7d3b784 00:02:35.594 --> 00:02:37.394 technology deployment and then the NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 b333df10-4bd7-4bab-a422-76cbaf22adda 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.710 so basically out of that meeting was NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 307f36c9-9bed-44bc-a8c2-4ab3651ef9a8 00:02:39.710 --> 00:02:43.266 the birth of a work group called The NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 39e6df1f-ba06-4f97-9fa7-b66c37c40e17 00:02:43.266 --> 00:02:44.760 Alternative Restoration Technology. NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 42c39b6f-06d5-4946-9026-7e7961b5b0b7 00:02:44.760 --> 00:02:46.296 And it was now pack wise. NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 dc603341-c7db-4c3e-99b3-dfb353e2e27d 00:02:46.300 --> 00:02:48.932 So we had at the beginning we had NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 2325950b-96b3-42c6-9bd1-b034aaa39940 00:02:48.932 --> 00:02:50.598 membership from Guam to Maine. NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 51aa0162-c8d9-4087-99fb-6723a87bebec 00:02:50.600 --> 00:02:53.712 So we covered a very large breasts. NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 bdf1368a-429b-478f-9f55-9df998760b35 00:02:53.712 --> 00:02:55.854 We're all we were kind of like, NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 647fc99e-a2de-42b9-a9ae-84ecf896cb73 00:02:55.860 --> 00:02:56.792 innovative technology NOTE Confidence: 0.839073956 af82517c-12ec-408b-9f76-6d6a3397f4ea 00:02:56.792 --> 00:02:58.190 advocates and gatekeepers. NOTE Confidence: 0.91189173875 d2c8fbe3-a326-4c0a-aa2a-8e6439f9fed9 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.776 So in the 90s to the early 2000s. NOTE Confidence: 0.91189173875 a4e1898f-3fc3-4ee5-b522-379aafbd15ba 00:03:03.780 --> 00:03:05.697 You know, we saw it was a time frame NOTE Confidence: 0.91189173875 8e62eb4e-8ce3-42b9-84e6-e81f8442d684 00:03:05.697 --> 00:03:07.719 of a lot of technology development, NOTE Confidence: 0.91189173875 672dcd11-bd1d-4450-a343-f1f97516c3cb 00:03:07.720 --> 00:03:09.856 new things were coming on board. NOTE Confidence: 0.91189173875 e8a2489c-bcb6-4836-90f9-b3f873f4560a 00:03:09.860 --> 00:03:11.708 And I mean, I started remembering NOTE Confidence: 0.91189173875 e9bc5120-c062-4ae5-bf2d-a6f03720d262 00:03:11.708 --> 00:03:12.632 reading about institute, NOTE Confidence: 0.91189173875 d6909d53-2109-415b-b6a3-fc1da48da88e 00:03:12.640 --> 00:03:13.852 chemical oxidation and some NOTE Confidence: 0.91189173875 105caf6a-d511-4f1a-aadc-4cbe91b08cba 00:03:13.852 --> 00:03:15.367 experiment that was done at. NOTE Confidence: 0.695478046666667 5bba4e13-55d4-4069-a3a8-c69e0e4b0ef0 00:03:17.470 --> 00:03:20.266 The DOE facility and South Carolina. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 a7b56705-63c9-44f4-ac61-4619e7495fcf 00:03:22.770 --> 00:03:25.114 And I thought it was kind of funny, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 2d1c0526-4414-44f8-bc9c-42b532ff9626 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:26.632 you know, to read about because they NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 cfe561a2-80dd-469f-b49a-d89215a6b492 00:03:26.632 --> 00:03:28.040 talked about your physical activity, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 e9ba3dfe-ef4b-411b-9ba8-9e63f9cf2a7c 00:03:28.040 --> 00:03:29.840 where they injected chemicals and NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 eb81627a-0718-47ae-a4bf-8856f88dd9fa 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:32.038 they could hear the chemicals or NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 a003a4ac-f0f3-476e-bdac-3e245b59b4b1 00:03:32.038 --> 00:03:34.048 something just subsurface in the wild. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 368c23ab-9b26-4ccf-a8a2-5175f81e7e9b 00:03:34.050 --> 00:03:34.894 And it's the time. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 e5f928c2-dec4-4f04-9829-adf9774d65e2 00:03:34.894 --> 00:03:36.442 It's kind of odd at the time NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 d1d6ac5e-afdd-4952-b051-1d5a343c7857 00:03:36.442 --> 00:03:38.024 and the use of 0 valent metals. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 9846e192-99b9-47d1-bd0e-503a10d4a773 00:03:38.030 --> 00:03:39.910 Who thought about using CDI. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 6c2c3eee-3099-41cd-9077-b4f5b1f19c01 00:03:39.910 --> 00:03:41.542 It's just kind of things that NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 691e9e97-7de5-4027-b36e-98736f897851 00:03:41.542 --> 00:03:42.630 are very commonplace today, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 001d215e-6794-4ead-bf17-b840086fe82b 00:03:42.630 --> 00:03:44.148 monitored out attenuation NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 1da9aa3e-9878-4451-9359-cf9f027d81c0 00:03:44.148 --> 00:03:45.666 for multiple contaminants, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 d6f34978-5b2e-4852-b9d8-3474c1ed49f8 00:03:45.670 --> 00:03:46.552 enhanced bioremediation. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 fb82603d-567b-4245-a47c-060776b5e3fd 00:03:46.552 --> 00:03:50.080 It seems now that everything that comes out, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 d8e909f8-2242-4946-834d-167590ca3171 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.194 somebody finds some way to buy remediated. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 bdb557e7-2a52-4eac-af86-d15baadb4ba9 00:03:52.200 --> 00:03:54.030 Or there's something in the environment NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 4d564035-9c4c-4003-8003-ee780c3dd294 00:03:54.030 --> 00:03:56.083 that degrades the air sparging Soviet NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 9a6a7498-7236-4fe5-88f3-d14ee8c9b993 00:03:56.083 --> 00:03:57.904 for extraction, internal heating. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 436c3cca-5723-4c37-95d7-6a3846744d8c 00:03:57.904 --> 00:04:02.080 It was a time of this very exponential NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 0bae52f2-5600-43ac-a8a1-8e2fe173ae18 00:04:02.176 --> 00:04:05.156 increase in knowledge and tools. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 ac02d665-8690-472c-b057-b95fc5c1c501 00:04:05.160 --> 00:04:06.606 We're going to the Patel conferences NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 82378038-0216-4b51-9e35-3ba5c5df5816 00:04:06.606 --> 00:04:08.319 and a lot of new stuff was, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 43f00eb7-13f0-4d9e-9229-300d3b8efadb 00:04:08.320 --> 00:04:09.064 you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 91e360d7-5f11-4142-b9fd-3f31944cb3c5 00:04:09.064 --> 00:04:11.296 every every two years something new NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 ac6b15a5-915d-407f-81d1-e9dc0b4a6daf 00:04:11.296 --> 00:04:13.836 was coming out to for for discussion. NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 21f3cabe-b72f-43bb-96b6-b3d345464ffb 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:15.592 So you know the innovative technology NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 8949f83f-f216-4459-b3f8-39f9c5096f7f 00:04:15.592 --> 00:04:18.040 group in the Navy, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 ef899d49-bd23-4bd4-ac37-3f7521452be5 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:21.272 we advocated supported the deployment NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 7585a22c-819d-4114-9917-af280e9527ac 00:04:21.272 --> 00:04:23.896 of these innovative technologies, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 a787c0d1-74ae-4510-9f3c-423dc259ae99 00:04:23.900 --> 00:04:25.120 some things that we did, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 e611f010-91fe-4f4e-b239-20b64642cd24 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:27.880 we had a multi case study, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 3ffca47a-48a4-4b25-823a-5269a9af1f55 00:04:27.880 --> 00:04:31.200 CBI deployments where we compared NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 bfc4d4a8-b85a-4b05-bdf9-1c6a0750eb5f 00:04:31.200 --> 00:04:32.475 how it performed at different NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 a83afb19-e56a-46f8-bfbb-7401d0481bac 00:04:32.475 --> 00:04:34.257 sites and we talked about when it NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 f75376f0-b083-49f7-8534-2f5e4dc0b65a 00:04:34.257 --> 00:04:35.613 didn't work very well on there, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 3b89aaff-2991-4f02-b0d4-ac06687d97d9 00:04:35.620 --> 00:04:37.260 which was kind of uncommon. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 1cd32716-3777-47c7-9a2c-9b14b3ce679d 00:04:51.244 --> 00:04:53.848 And pretty much in the Navy, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 3613f23e-5c53-453a-ac66-e503bfeb73d0 00:04:53.850 --> 00:04:55.938 there are no sites where Isco is really NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 74e02e8c-db3b-44c2-81e2-388a690a181d 00:04:55.938 --> 00:04:58.169 a good candidate technology anymore, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 4e9a587c-a10a-469f-a6cd-c27046334c3a 00:04:58.170 --> 00:05:00.088 because all of those sites have already NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 7e9d45e2-4dcd-47b5-a982-c8104d819323 00:05:00.088 --> 00:05:01.629 gone through Cisco at some point, NOTE Confidence: 0.7644505925 f5537375-7666-4160-bce6-a8d995c90306 00:05:01.630 --> 00:05:04.375 probably in the 90s to maybe the early 2000s. NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 b42e5838-e5b2-4bd2-b383-cd4615b74670 00:05:07.170 --> 00:05:09.230 We would identify internal barriers, NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 e2552449-c509-467d-a39e-48dbe6a84294 00:05:09.230 --> 00:05:10.202 you know, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 e9d30568-aea5-43cb-968b-9ed8d1e238ab 00:05:10.202 --> 00:05:11.174 we're the federal government. NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 23277ea7-d873-4b0a-a163-dd63f85b3609 00:05:11.180 --> 00:05:13.224 We're very, very cratic NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 5ae32085-98d1-458b-a9c1-755dcc065f43 00:05:13.224 --> 00:05:15.268 contracting lots of requirements. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 1de9e153-7440-4f43-b8c8-fde2025c162e 00:05:42.430 --> 00:05:43.486 But you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 f49e2baa-be18-4e38-8922-e9a558c1a262 00:05:43.486 --> 00:05:45.246 those were things that we NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 4b9716b9-8dec-47f3-b3b0-c6db6d1a62a3 00:05:45.246 --> 00:05:46.989 also helped with and then. NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 d128f460-734b-430d-8e6e-9eb90c405ba7 00:05:46.990 --> 00:05:48.826 There's a lot of programs out NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 2370f84e-bfbb-4f15-b854-96b3d1271d66 00:05:48.826 --> 00:05:51.438 there that do R&D and are looking NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 851692fc-30bc-456c-b883-e262f001785b 00:05:51.438 --> 00:05:53.548 for candidate sites and it's. NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 8ee12041-c6e2-4f96-b28d-b9568583faa5 00:05:53.550 --> 00:05:55.615 It's not very easy to reach into NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 404144c6-09ed-44ff-93eb-80ffbb6ef682 00:05:55.615 --> 00:05:57.917 the Navy unless you know the right NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 3e3680e9-2efc-4d86-a966-b8f4f9dd06ed 00:05:57.917 --> 00:05:59.945 people to do the police deployments. NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 254a9488-4205-4546-8fde-b499a72e0d2a 00:05:59.950 --> 00:06:02.798 And so we were very helpful with that. NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 33dc1d27-d08b-49f3-be7e-30ba7952240c 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:04.560 We also had technical managers, NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 dd8a5fb6-901f-407f-80f7-a348dc03c319 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:06.498 so we had remedial project managers, NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 410617d0-d18e-459f-882d-d0cc314864e4 00:06:06.500 --> 00:06:08.820 but each of the each of our components NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 a7b9b1fe-f19e-44be-b250-42042c5256e7 00:06:08.820 --> 00:06:11.963 set up a group of technical managers NOTE Confidence: 0.813670768 54269f88-0fc6-4142-bd24-ad90c21bcc5e 00:06:11.963 --> 00:06:15.159 to be in-house and support the RPM. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 43c90e49-a0d9-4b76-94af-91826a0ab677 00:07:03.030 --> 00:07:05.221 And they assign each each of our NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 fb8969c1-7c33-4fbf-850c-3bf32168b1e0 00:07:05.221 --> 00:07:07.514 offices a like a customer service NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 fa9aaa79-c895-4058-a2c4-0312dff4ab8e 00:07:07.514 --> 00:07:10.088 representative who got to know everyone NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 9af2573c-1eab-4af7-acea-8837ae3d5eb7 00:07:10.090 --> 00:07:13.846 got to know the RPM size and you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 93be708e-abd1-48a7-8a48-cc459079d302 00:07:13.846 --> 00:07:16.590 was looking at what was coming into NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 d6c67a97-03bc-4e36-b2bb-abe8fde080a6 00:07:16.670 --> 00:07:19.222 them from an R&D deployment project NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 bd07037b-c70c-43f9-bb32-415cc473c0d8 00:07:19.222 --> 00:07:22.358 Wise and finding sites to marry up where NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 02821305-5eeb-4fea-8054-3e3ac036fef0 00:07:22.358 --> 00:07:25.009 there was a good technology that might NOTE Confidence: 0.849488639473684 fbdae84f-454d-46e4-b644-36de36afae57 00:07:25.009 --> 00:07:27.849 solve an issue at a particular site. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.772117057142857 d1b5c715-af79-4410-8526-296ba4125504 00:08:49.680 --> 00:08:51.880 And I think that each of them tried NOTE Confidence: 0.772117057142857 fc280cc6-24ed-4284-9439-b5e1f8412a16 00:08:51.880 --> 00:08:53.720 out about 8:00 or 10 projects. NOTE Confidence: 0.772117057142857 7fc5d7ba-0a38-4a11-9923-4613c9f87a64 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:54.852 And then tiger teams. NOTE Confidence: 0.772117057142857 6e3536be-6b6b-409b-b59e-88875712d355 00:08:54.852 --> 00:08:57.134 And then we had an environmental annual NOTE Confidence: 0.772117057142857 f279491d-5954-4b93-882b-c3bed4a03a7a 00:08:57.134 --> 00:08:58.709 environmental program conference. NOTE Confidence: 0.887486186666667 46c4e5c6-88ce-4375-a7b0-f4d7f4ab9b36 00:09:01.300 --> 00:09:05.854 So, but then we got to the mid 2000s. NOTE Confidence: 0.887486186666667 3c042da6-5829-40a8-a035-6026b0273c67 00:09:05.860 --> 00:09:09.406 And that exponential growth and knowledge NOTE Confidence: 0.887486186666667 3e786778-433f-4a1e-b70f-3f86855ade84 00:09:09.406 --> 00:09:12.810 and technology really flattened out, I mean. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 5a9cc601-f72c-4db3-8ba9-f1dc7967d7df 00:09:15.020 --> 00:09:16.796 I go to the Patel conference. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 d4f48314-4e36-4bac-b87a-50cb05f66c37 00:09:16.800 --> 00:09:18.295 Really wasn't all that different NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 dc9a11c3-77c7-4f7c-a4a2-e5daf6890c40 00:09:18.295 --> 00:09:19.790 from the two years prior. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 61b3bf19-5a41-4188-ab16-d62ac2e1b7e7 00:09:19.790 --> 00:09:21.290 There was, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 aea463ba-1db5-4ce9-b50f-3d505d5d6d2a 00:09:21.290 --> 00:09:24.056 I call it more like tinkering around NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 fd407b4e-ed17-4913-b009-a2ac9958b70a 00:09:24.056 --> 00:09:26.300 the edges or something came out. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 012caca5-d8b1-4dfc-8356-4d0e8c5d3fc1 00:09:26.300 --> 00:09:27.800 It was like there was no NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 a7532ab1-9619-427b-a6ef-671417315eff 00:09:27.800 --> 00:09:28.940 dramatic new technology. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 3c01d8fd-bac9-43d3-ba37-0f116c5bb721 00:09:28.940 --> 00:09:31.030 There was like, no, like, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 2529fa24-058f-482e-a7ac-cdb93190fc36 00:09:31.030 --> 00:09:33.304 Star Trek laser beams that are, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 9abd8d83-c8a1-4d95-baa7-d46770b28898 00:09:33.304 --> 00:09:35.314 coming out and destroying contaminants. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 2a7b7909-f610-4cfa-8863-f0815160acfe 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.238 It was very incremental knowledge increase. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 3c2587c6-fc7d-4749-86f8-cc63096b224a 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.028 You know, we had emerging contaminants. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 56d9dfcc-3efd-464c-b0bc-5ab71da3272a 00:09:41.030 --> 00:09:42.830 We had what paradox, NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 0b306002-8fe2-4b75-930c-79347a0f2ba7 00:09:42.830 --> 00:09:44.241 saying perchlorates. Umm. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 95ca0ff9-7099-43e6-880d-150b3018f003 00:09:44.241 --> 00:09:47.072 Seems like there's one forget all NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 3c933f19-f5d9-4f52-b263-17c6d0fbcf37 00:09:47.072 --> 00:09:48.976 those kind of came through the program. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 356fd584-5dda-4db3-a154-203b4a167dd0 00:09:48.980 --> 00:09:51.218 MTV, all those kind of came NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 c200248d-072e-43e7-8685-a54de3c65558 00:09:51.218 --> 00:09:52.337 through the program, NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 45760f59-f882-464b-957b-367ecd2796ff 00:09:52.340 --> 00:09:54.176 had a limited amount of impact. 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NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 bd64c47f-fb70-46cb-ad98-f62f1b0dac39 00:10:16.350 --> 00:10:18.998 And but then organizationally. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 693c5923-a168-40de-a1d8-1d29ab9f7111 00:10:18.998 --> 00:10:20.984 We went through. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 1498b3f9-7011-477e-8d5f-d280d2e394c5 00:10:20.990 --> 00:10:23.042 Our Philadelphia office closed. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 105ee5b2-f3f8-4a64-9e55-c45ab4f2c30d 00:10:23.042 --> 00:10:26.120 We lost Jason for a while. NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 55f33c89-c8df-4ba7-9f56-6d45bb6a5fc2 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:27.200 Came back to us eventually and NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 f972b1d4-5338-4a7c-819a-0131b5bf2a7a 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:28.632 he was out in the wilderness in NOTE Confidence: 0.712156511666667 a1925a6f-85cd-4f4b-ab79-2c26c6c6d511 00:10:28.632 --> 00:10:29.970 the private sector for a while. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 30d1dfe6-12e0-4228-b229-00a8e16aa6d3 00:10:32.230 --> 00:10:34.560 Our office in the Southeast NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 32948bfa-bca2-4fbc-828e-6a5bcbc43ce2 00:10:34.560 --> 00:10:36.424 closed moved to Jacksonville, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 22270e9c-9b4b-4b1e-9f47-6c9755330024 00:10:36.430 --> 00:10:40.110 and when those offices closed. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 b15ca3a3-e541-43ec-ab97-969a6cd1517a 00:10:40.110 --> 00:10:41.510 99% of the people left the Navy, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 6c7f0e92-a666-47c9-af25-1da24a0800bf 00:10:41.510 --> 00:10:44.648 so there was a large amount NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 41635a50-e158-455a-bd4c-68b7047b8236 00:10:44.648 --> 00:10:46.217 of information knowledge. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 d04f3bf0-8e4a-4069-82ad-1f15bd78d0fb 00:10:46.220 --> 00:10:48.668 Site history that was just gone. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 dc68254a-03ed-4415-8967-63c2978c42bf 00:10:48.670 --> 00:10:51.720 Uh. You know, we had our, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 e4afe7a2-91e3-4551-aada-9ca58b3a0097 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:52.970 was talking about this technical NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 4c886cb7-5da1-4e4f-b7cc-f03b1e72dfc3 00:10:52.970 --> 00:10:54.826 managers we had to support the RPM's. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 badf747b-f854-4aa6-a279-0cc96d6f806c 00:10:54.826 --> 00:10:57.106 That faded away, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 d9375fab-92bb-4309-ad74-10af492433a3 00:10:57.110 --> 00:10:58.322 cost cutting measures. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 ef6042cd-f633-4d60-bcd3-876dcbb6bf4f 00:10:58.322 --> 00:10:59.130 You know, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 5ba73d61-402c-4085-8a3c-dc4732fc84ed 00:10:59.130 --> 00:11:03.170 deployments of those resources elsewhere. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 9bd55fad-f78d-4936-8f22-bdd016db1b57 00:11:03.170 --> 00:11:06.208 So those window the way overtime or NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 f1fdb542-7bbb-4c51-97d8-e910a916a829 00:11:06.210 --> 00:11:07.992 they got they got repurposed right NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 f6092c7b-fbd1-4891-b752-2e8f8331c798 00:11:07.992 --> 00:11:10.551 now a big thing for us is audit NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 359120ed-ed9e-4a50-afcf-8408d6d51d9b 00:11:10.551 --> 00:11:12.186 readiness and having cost estimates NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 b76e584b-0640-4f42-9b34-3650effeefa4 00:11:12.186 --> 00:11:14.443 for all our sides that are audit ready NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 6d1ed362-b2ac-4d2d-be06-0c7584150f65 00:11:14.443 --> 00:11:18.210 and it's a giant pain in the ***. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 5148579e-05cc-4739-b0d8-bc63481274d7 00:11:18.210 --> 00:11:18.734 Modifying. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 2d2ef065-b442-43a3-96de-d168b40b321e 00:11:18.734 --> 00:11:21.878 And you really wonder what's the NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 683d56b7-4d72-498e-a5b2-397981c9dc73 00:11:21.878 --> 00:11:26.150 value in this, but it's a big focus NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 988f4956-748b-4157-a947-db76c7e3ce3a 00:11:26.150 --> 00:11:29.630 within DoD to have auditable books. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 46dd777f-3058-49a8-b20e-e44f14a37f3a 00:11:29.630 --> 00:11:31.121 We had that. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 cfc3922b-7e55-43fc-921f-14407a88ced8 00:11:31.121 --> 00:11:34.103 Team of technology advocates the art. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 ddc574e8-e0a4-4391-8b0d-245153709feb 00:11:34.110 --> 00:11:34.854 Cut off direction. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 d2d01ee0-29bb-4653-825c-158d3fa44d79 00:11:34.854 --> 00:11:36.390 I mean, there's not much coming out. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 494fc378-2be8-428c-a5ea-41126425f40f 00:11:36.390 --> 00:11:37.946 There's not much news, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 885028bf-c4f0-4c66-a40e-ca4a7cdfe88f 00:11:37.946 --> 00:11:39.502 technology or techniques to NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 938bbf2e-55f4-45cb-86b5-c92fc0ac1036 00:11:39.502 --> 00:11:41.308 be pushing out to the RPM. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 3f68fe69-debf-4b9d-9459-489e564b4ba9 00:11:41.310 --> 00:11:41.830 Saying, hey, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 b6ab40e7-fcb6-470f-981f-1762bc9db3cf 00:11:41.830 --> 00:11:43.650 you should be looking at this and NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 24f91715-e4f1-44c8-8de1-6d1ee790c5cf 00:11:43.650 --> 00:11:45.138 thinking about this at your sides. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 775e9969-40f4-4b7a-bef7-542d97cc7d48 00:11:45.140 --> 00:11:45.684 You know, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 8e4959b6-9f4c-4ba1-a00c-d7adcab0365b 00:11:45.684 --> 00:11:47.860 so I kind of lost focus and direction NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 1b1b04fa-ce59-4188-a53d-d6bbf2d54b45 00:11:47.920 --> 00:11:49.600 and eventually the the group. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 a51c90e2-dae0-4b5c-95c5-fc1b3c805995 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.372 Gods folded into another work group NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 0cf270b0-e742-4777-ba6d-4130e0ed8df2 00:11:52.372 --> 00:11:55.030 which has a different priority. NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 c8c102d6-52a4-48b3-a416-3f3e720b481e 00:11:55.030 --> 00:11:56.619 And then our kind of change this, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 5b86dde6-a082-4ca0-af22-17841a76d81f 00:11:56.620 --> 00:11:59.074 but we had that conference that NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 96476202-2db7-451a-b258-d528fc21f4c4 00:11:59.074 --> 00:12:01.432 talked about you know I went NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 6b18133f-1ba1-471e-9adb-e45563a22b42 00:12:01.432 --> 00:12:03.824 to every two years and then it NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 d7cc379e-0a33-4269-8b40-4de71ea12920 00:12:03.824 --> 00:12:05.296 got it got cancelled, NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 35b047b4-e289-4be9-ac5e-32ddba9a5255 00:12:05.300 --> 00:12:06.966 it got cut for cost savings measures NOTE Confidence: 0.744391513333333 675e0a94-9306-4a82-bc1a-b7c1ab12514f 00:12:06.966 --> 00:12:08.808 for at least for a couple of years. NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 49b49cf8-f73f-404a-9e89-f22ef0b70a6b 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:14.000 And then pre PFAS, basically our program is NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 ac944f28-a63f-46b9-a1d2-41de334d2847 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.848 moving to remedy in place a lot of sites NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 4348dc64-03d0-42a1-935b-53afd869b63f 00:12:16.848 --> 00:12:19.659 are pretty far along in the circle process. NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 b7899c08-8048-4b2d-b90f-85a5d7ceef3b 00:12:19.660 --> 00:12:22.342 You know when you're trying to get to the NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 0cfdf089-d4fb-4104-ba45-74905c3648d4 00:12:22.342 --> 00:12:26.160 FS or post FS, you scuse me says RPM, NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 9c304a9e-ee3e-4072-b76f-1ada89fd4b6f 00:12:26.160 --> 00:12:28.246 you're not really wanting to like entertain NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 73d83132-4bd8-44b1-a606-201b67bb8991 00:12:28.246 --> 00:12:30.540 a new technology when you're in the F stage, NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 3835479f-d025-470d-84bd-9cb16d433f21 00:12:30.540 --> 00:12:32.388 you're basically kind of pretty set NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 09688d2c-1aaf-402e-9095-0ad85f8d0ac0 00:12:32.388 --> 00:12:34.977 on a path to get yourself to rod. NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 c5fe7077-7051-47ea-8bdf-01ce019a7869 00:12:34.980 --> 00:12:37.860 That's a big bean and is trapped in the Navy. NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 cc2b3812-5877-4224-b8e4-30d5b7784355 00:12:37.860 --> 00:12:39.932 So you know if you don't get to NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 dd773602-c9de-491d-966a-d1d9671e17ea 00:12:39.932 --> 00:12:41.559 your rod on the schedule. NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 033ea180-254d-411e-8b99-60f5485e96a9 00:12:41.560 --> 00:12:43.876 Time to write this explanation of NOTE Confidence: 0.8095676368 cab0fe0b-eb3a-4e4f-8070-617baf18a12f 00:12:43.876 --> 00:12:46.970 you know why the delay and so forth. NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 a6f66a0f-07bf-4168-ae46-2bbf4ec86cf5 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.467 And then I think like a lot of organizations. NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 6c663488-cfa9-4cd7-af61-c5f789806190 00:12:52.470 --> 00:12:55.896 Big wave of retirements going on. NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 2911da36-fdbc-4cd3-aa82-fe02b9748ee4 00:12:55.900 --> 00:12:57.468 Lots of knowledge going out the door. NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 4c4ef755-5d5d-4f6b-837b-79baa0bd0992 00:12:57.470 --> 00:13:00.010 I mean, uh, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 602c1e82-4aaf-416b-a578-29b2f612401e 00:13:00.010 --> 00:13:02.086 my command is has given some NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 49c8bd2a-7f20-453c-9f01-40c0a3ce1c92 00:13:02.086 --> 00:13:03.470 thought to succession plan, NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 b1f889e4-7a8e-45e6-b07f-258f13af7a39 00:13:03.470 --> 00:13:04.890 but it doesn't go anywhere. NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 a88556ac-29c3-4c89-84b2-fe0056fe1c87 00:13:04.890 --> 00:13:06.668 And you know, I've I've worked on NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 c1ab561a-203d-4c00-a02c-18eecf3ea433 00:13:06.668 --> 00:13:08.549 North Island for 20 years and I know NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 b986c32f-22f7-49e3-93b8-ed4922204206 00:13:08.549 --> 00:13:10.229 where some of the lies are buried, NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 84e75da2-8640-4ada-9839-696416145269 00:13:10.230 --> 00:13:12.046 but it's going to go out the door NOTE Confidence: 0.819654097777778 75854dc9-a9b5-4c8d-bf66-11e2efb10b76 00:13:12.046 --> 00:13:13.948 with me in about 3 to five years. NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 7b8db94a-565b-4edc-8802-19848f2b1031 00:13:17.930 --> 00:13:19.280 So I would say, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 b2113abf-cd3b-439c-a20e-110109aa5e8d 00:13:19.280 --> 00:13:21.352 kind of had all these little different NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 fdaa647c-0872-4230-8a02-1a5fc5de98cc 00:13:21.352 --> 00:13:23.229 things going on at the same time. NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 bef66005-5c73-4250-836b-972f163a6d36 00:13:23.230 --> 00:13:25.228 But you know, without the Navy, NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 33758a4d-9a2e-4a87-a561-e56dc59418e5 00:13:25.230 --> 00:13:28.190 just kind of slowly invests NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 bf43e69d-b897-43d0-9351-0d09725e8b90 00:13:28.190 --> 00:13:29.489 in innovative technology, NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 7fdb263d-bf2c-45f0-aa1b-489799e39d13 00:13:29.489 --> 00:13:31.654 deployment less and less and NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 ff0b5dde-b22d-484f-b9c4-5284609d4888 00:13:31.654 --> 00:13:33.998 less and over time and doesn't NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 0351ec14-3d9f-42b3-a4ce-18a879265f3c 00:13:33.998 --> 00:13:35.968 really realize what's going on NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 f031afa8-2c42-46f2-a5ef-d348031b23a9 00:13:35.968 --> 00:13:37.769 in the ramification until we NOTE Confidence: 0.805243871666667 6f4b028e-fd54-4697-94f0-e7e5ec2ae896 00:13:37.769 --> 00:13:39.694 get to these the days of PFAS. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 5fbf9ca5-083e-48cf-9645-d33b2b46302a 00:13:44.730 --> 00:13:48.100 So you know I Kelsey is NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 bc8929d3-c539-47e9-a9ea-0f0b604922f9 00:13:48.100 --> 00:13:49.730 gonna talk a lot about this. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 3b964643-c856-48c4-ab04-120d1527f86e 00:13:49.730 --> 00:13:51.630 This is a lot of things that we currently do. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 78004182-0434-46f8-8590-85aac68e6040 00:13:51.630 --> 00:13:54.406 There's all, there's a lot of things that NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 a60edf5d-6550-4d7a-b03c-3acdd3268a79 00:13:54.406 --> 00:13:57.468 we still do to push information out there. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 ea4ef057-9ab3-4580-9b65-8abf4de32dc3 00:13:57.470 --> 00:14:01.190 The RPMS we have still have the Ritz. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 f8aedf09-9729-4b04-87c9-dc176b7edb14 00:14:01.190 --> 00:14:02.810 We have the our website. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 cd04219b-08e1-416e-8591-b2c427b17c5d 00:14:02.810 --> 00:14:04.196 They just went through a major NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 626cf95c-a77d-4946-84ea-6cafd17cedd6 00:14:04.196 --> 00:14:05.829 revamp and make it easier to use. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 19006998-b255-473e-8d1a-88c7f79f0561 00:14:05.830 --> 00:14:08.512 We have these webinars that one NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 231097af-70f9-43b8-a35c-821b7163f3ab 00:14:08.512 --> 00:14:11.309 is open to anyone to attend. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 a3e14025-4085-4a2b-856f-9215fbeb7e8b 00:14:11.310 --> 00:14:13.030 We have an internal webinar, NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 b8d889f8-e9ea-4803-8a0d-677dfc63b80e 00:14:13.030 --> 00:14:14.790 we have a newsletter. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 df7f04e2-ce96-4501-a1c5-41e0843886ed 00:14:14.790 --> 00:14:17.430 We have our our RPM training NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 6c8937cc-4923-4b76-a7dc-bb2fd74442c5 00:14:17.520 --> 00:14:19.486 conference every two years. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 09cc016c-7232-4530-9f29-a437dac2729b 00:14:19.486 --> 00:14:20.210 There's Nessie, NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 8aeea853-333c-4fc7-8905-542564248a29 00:14:20.210 --> 00:14:22.639 which is a Navy program for R&D. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 68d474e4-b024-408b-a5f1-11cacc5af643 00:14:22.640 --> 00:14:24.832 So there's a lot of things that I NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 31768e37-1fa0-4674-9c02-d6a56db810a5 00:14:24.832 --> 00:14:27.625 would say that would go on to do NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 e7e188ef-3090-46a8-9287-6b512fb14f71 00:14:27.625 --> 00:14:29.077 marketing and reinforce innovative NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 d31e0248-e767-45f8-910c-7f715b23ffeb 00:14:29.148 --> 00:14:33.300 technologies to our RPM's. But. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 1aaf64be-daee-424b-9be4-2430026dedd5 00:14:33.300 --> 00:14:34.695 You know, it's like you go to these things. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 0fd7c6ba-3311-4a87-a3c8-c6e4abfed311 00:14:34.700 --> 00:14:35.600 It's like you hear, it's like, NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 bc1ed15e-6ac7-4b86-a27e-c4e194fedf2e 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:36.760 OK, this sounds great. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 9b8c03fa-0921-4fac-a242-4d8e999fefaf 00:14:36.760 --> 00:14:38.340 You know, I can check off. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 bf270ca1-8ecd-47a7-881f-b7e3a2527437 00:14:38.340 --> 00:14:39.340 I got some training. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 fbc28372-f579-42df-942e-ee2131abf51d 00:14:39.340 --> 00:14:40.740 And you go back and doing your job, NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 6d4c10aa-dd25-42a8-bcf5-c4911ff63938 00:14:40.740 --> 00:14:42.212 you don't really have. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 30976f11-e136-4f5f-86ac-76344b4cd3ba 00:14:42.212 --> 00:14:44.420 The people in the organization so NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 0e08a334-f1f7-4820-b568-ebe1500c4688 00:14:44.488 --> 00:14:47.272 much more that says Ohh you know what NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 d5b01ccf-89b0-44a8-88b5-0457c012bef0 00:14:47.272 --> 00:14:49.326 that technology would be great for NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 c3e88385-4dc6-4cca-88ac-31b9a70749f5 00:14:49.326 --> 00:14:51.940 that problem on that side over there. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 17405260-448d-408f-a411-4755677bbd68 00:14:51.940 --> 00:14:55.340 RPM just needs to know. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 952dd444-4009-459e-b96d-a8cf0eee01e9 00:14:55.340 --> 00:14:57.940 Don't have that anymore. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 60671019-4a27-4e9e-8dbc-e449099ec01c 00:14:57.940 --> 00:15:00.068 I could just kind of skip over this NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 71205ee5-3ffc-434e-9cd2-929d467bf584 00:15:00.068 --> 00:15:02.375 is there's a lot of other programs NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 fd3b55c0-9aa5-423e-84f8-207cec244ba3 00:15:02.375 --> 00:15:04.085 out there for innovative technology NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 2d3f3ed0-84d2-43e8-b594-7ad937b85cd4 00:15:04.144 --> 00:15:07.988 transfer with EPA itrc sort of PCP. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 98d01815-f341-4e34-8f96-038b93f70119 00:15:07.990 --> 00:15:08.784 So again, NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 59ac2719-317d-4305-9623-4d319e9c9504 00:15:08.784 --> 00:15:11.166 lots of great information out there. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 c473d10c-ed7c-42f8-99c1-776cb1209d5b 00:15:11.170 --> 00:15:13.462 RPM's have to be willing and have NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 c310f410-c464-4d59-8c30-74a3993abc93 00:15:13.462 --> 00:15:15.674 the time to go look through this NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 75755f7e-9f14-40af-a2af-56851b533fb7 00:15:15.674 --> 00:15:17.948 stuff to find something that's NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 7adb46c2-11d6-4b2e-a5ef-40a76a962d11 00:15:17.948 --> 00:15:20.303 relevant and potentially useful for NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 ba670bfa-7eef-4d43-adf4-9552fa540c3a 00:15:20.303 --> 00:15:22.328 something going on at this time. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 40304113-2636-4678-a2a0-522f3f006b9f 00:15:22.330 --> 00:15:23.345 So this is kind of like the NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 317a5769-44e3-47e2-87b2-73e997514b73 00:15:23.345 --> 00:15:24.310 heart of my presentation. NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 78e80639-6132-4e74-ac20-713344741ee0 00:15:24.310 --> 00:15:26.305 What's the RPM considerations for NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 c7a6f6c5-8409-463d-8a32-7a8ac583fb4d 00:15:26.305 --> 00:15:27.502 innovative technology deployment NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 01880f57-3549-4255-a83b-78f6a80133e6 00:15:27.502 --> 00:15:29.269 or what I call the value? NOTE Confidence: 0.6625588 01339353-ab96-4c0c-8b51-b7543276dab4 00:15:29.270 --> 00:15:30.620 How do you get across the valley of death? NOTE Confidence: 0.89883007 af180019-18f3-4ff0-85f0-8212ea1e621e 00:15:33.650 --> 00:15:36.242 OK so. How does it fit NOTE Confidence: 0.89883007 f66f6943-f101-48ce-9103-7d2fad0a303d 00:15:36.242 --> 00:15:38.390 into the my program is? NOTE Confidence: 0.89883007 f06eae64-143a-42f3-844f-24101ce6d33f 00:15:38.390 --> 00:15:39.510 Is the timing right? NOTE Confidence: 0.89883007 8600e4dc-21fc-4373-bc4d-20a2ffb49570 00:15:39.510 --> 00:15:41.627 You know if I've got a clean NOTE Confidence: 0.89883007 dfe91313-259b-490a-8c2c-3209b5c8c349 00:15:41.627 --> 00:15:43.087 up technology of PFAS, NOTE Confidence: 0.89883007 f2de582b-4917-4508-aefd-320ae8af8273 00:15:43.090 --> 00:15:43.564 that's fantastic, NOTE Confidence: 0.89883007 a882721f-61b9-4ede-97aa-735a1129788f 00:15:43.564 --> 00:15:44.986 but I'm probably not going to NOTE Confidence: 0.89883007 1186d31b-33a8-44c3-a088-1b64f81de52e 00:15:44.986 --> 00:15:46.548 need it for another three years. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 d4d4c59a-d0cf-4e97-b2ee-9000775e4b2c 00:15:48.670 --> 00:15:51.307 So I I may like I may see something. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 4b9f611c-fb2b-4e88-a07f-ae31dbb47f3f 00:15:51.310 --> 00:15:52.606 So it's like, oh, I'm interested in that. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 03214443-a216-43e6-8147-d412f1bb3ca5 00:15:52.610 --> 00:15:53.780 But it's gonna be awhile NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 b045c131-d1e0-4ae9-9f03-e90228f3ef41 00:15:53.780 --> 00:15:55.210 before I get back to you. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 25e398c5-303d-4a15-8f62-d315857ae496 00:15:55.210 --> 00:15:58.490 But that may not work for the the the Pi. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 23b7e7e1-3cd9-4af1-a128-7a6b2bb6d407 00:15:58.490 --> 00:16:00.965 How proven it is it you know sometimes our, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 6b179ff7-f739-44ee-971c-d26ab10ae770 00:16:00.970 --> 00:16:02.830 you know, we're told to kind NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 cbb9a1a5-de3a-4bed-9e6b-45fdf627f4ba 00:16:02.830 --> 00:16:04.070 of take reasonable gambles. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 34aa3414-1cbd-42e8-9f5c-7c637e923e18 00:16:04.070 --> 00:16:06.734 But how proven is this technology are you NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 40281cda-f46a-4b77-8549-5c5ecb36af3c 00:16:06.734 --> 00:16:09.746 just like in the startup program you've got NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 a59c3046-a07b-458c-b003-c43e7f0503d8 00:16:09.746 --> 00:16:12.508 some lab experiments and some column study. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 23293563-ef8c-4223-8010-53ea817bd0dd 00:16:12.510 --> 00:16:14.022 I'm not too interested. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 60c12d06-c557-49e4-8c66-e69bfdf23b89 00:16:14.022 --> 00:16:16.598 You know, come back and talk to me NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 1a63ea30-1ac7-457d-ac2d-45e8f4189ffb 00:16:16.598 --> 00:16:18.919 when you you've got something more, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 1dd85edd-9308-49bb-9086-fae7ffac1b75 00:16:18.920 --> 00:16:22.024 some more meat to talk to me about. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 8cb950c2-bd67-4f98-88b4-c95e56b111a8 00:16:22.030 --> 00:16:24.736 Does it work with multiple contaminants? NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 ec4b3741-25a2-40b5-a25c-93797a2c9917 00:16:24.740 --> 00:16:28.338 I don't know, maybe I'm unlucky but. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 40fbccab-7543-447b-8cea-2a07f85cc0f3 00:16:28.340 --> 00:16:30.500 All my cornet solid plumes have NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 e2051c9d-21e3-4828-8112-5ae332333215 00:16:30.500 --> 00:16:32.810 everything else in the world in it, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 0dcada79-b6d6-41e1-95e6-f4669870e7b6 00:16:32.810 --> 00:16:34.833 so I've got large bone and silent NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 9b1214a2-5aa3-4b3d-a8a5-309c45931d02 00:16:34.833 --> 00:16:37.287 soon and I got one for doxylamine. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 534a60f8-1047-4fca-91d2-cd79c5bf1cea 00:16:37.290 --> 00:16:40.940 I've got lots of PFAS. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 098da9ab-1f1b-46b9-805d-79d5fe995212 00:16:40.940 --> 00:16:42.718 And when I talked to the PM, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 238efc74-b5b2-4ea5-95e3-ff7132f7693a 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:45.660 the PI's doing P fast project, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 c7ec6492-f0a8-4360-8107-1220c6ec993c 00:16:45.660 --> 00:16:46.780 I'll go wow, that's great. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 52c967bf-28d2-48f9-9795-279ac63df232 00:16:46.780 --> 00:16:48.356 It looks like it does something with Pfaff. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 0fddef47-e4cf-4692-82df-dc6072506f53 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:49.744 How does it work in a mixed point? NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 b221d374-c191-4a32-920b-371ff58eaba2 00:16:49.750 --> 00:16:50.614 I'm, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 9a67879c-9ef7-4984-a33e-2bbd93c7cd62 00:16:50.614 --> 00:16:52.054 I've got lots of solvents, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 fa921ab1-e24e-4741-8451-96e8fe186f26 00:16:52.060 --> 00:16:54.292 I've got teeth *** and I probably got 25 NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 1d4c2cdf-0434-4807-a893-9b3d5baad6cf 00:16:54.292 --> 00:16:56.319 other kind of chemicals just in minor NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 a6b976d2-3339-43ed-9433-5234bd6dc2b2 00:16:56.319 --> 00:16:58.844 amounts that we don't even track, you know? NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 04372022-1f29-4fe2-a6ec-44d0636ad1c3 00:16:58.844 --> 00:17:01.378 And they like deer in the headlights. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 d271387b-e9fa-425e-a7d3-1785e563bf15 00:17:01.380 --> 00:17:02.500 So I'm like, hmm, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 471b3c3f-b6c9-43c3-8157-f3ed5b7d0c11 00:17:02.500 --> 00:17:03.900 how much does it cost? NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 83734097-b8dd-4126-9567-1a95615d577a 00:17:03.900 --> 00:17:05.890 I mean, we have budgets. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 2ba82f85-c9a0-47ce-ad11-3292121412d0 00:17:05.890 --> 00:17:07.590 You know. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 e7611f08-c599-480a-b928-b57c890cc9bc 00:17:07.590 --> 00:17:08.228 You know, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 e0cdf805-724c-4f58-8855-7b1885150454 00:17:08.228 --> 00:17:10.461 it's as if a technology is going NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 37fae08a-65d8-4d2c-8878-675f1d25c575 00:17:10.461 --> 00:17:12.174 to be tremendously expensive NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 ef3ff25e-4cf9-40e2-902b-28bf52c53a1a 00:17:12.174 --> 00:17:14.820 to deploy when it's scaled up. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 01aec053-2a8a-4f2b-a26a-73d277e10724 00:17:14.820 --> 00:17:15.812 I'm gonna just like, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 4d7f02bd-650f-43bf-9f9b-7fcc066bd64c 00:17:15.812 --> 00:17:17.052 what are you thinking here? NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 9f6cc10e-bf13-4a23-95cc-2541e66f694c 00:17:17.060 --> 00:17:17.704 You know, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 53d71f0e-657a-409a-9cc2-9b7f2eb428c4 00:17:17.704 --> 00:17:19.958 we we just don't have endless budgets. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 2c1cc39c-667e-489e-9be5-ee7c3c8f898c 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.700 I mean, I I'm guessing, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 6123363c-f1f2-49d3-9963-ce9f938da6c9 00:17:22.700 --> 00:17:25.811 the Navy may end up with 1000. NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 29c5fd91-3d92-4612-8204-61cf19f5dd35 00:17:25.811 --> 00:17:27.584 Pfaff size alternately, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 00069263-b9fb-4f59-81e9-3ad0570b4ca2 00:17:27.584 --> 00:17:31.130 you know we may spend between, NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 354b30fe-bd76-4b60-bc9d-302b1ceb9be2 00:17:31.130 --> 00:17:33.908 you know hundreds of dollars to NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 68f24084-a98e-4875-9899-5f752aad9c42 00:17:33.908 --> 00:17:35.824 1,000,000 on them Kim's laugh NOTE Confidence: 0.844141226666667 87e60a2f-4b01-428b-af83-37f2ced2d213 00:17:35.824 --> 00:17:37.396 and she wishes it was $100. NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 6b86ff7b-84f2-4730-b3b0-60e981ea3339 00:17:39.490 --> 00:17:41.530 But if you know you think about it, NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 7c1629bb-4469-48bf-b366-da51ac36ba24 00:17:41.530 --> 00:17:44.608 even if it's $10,000 per side, NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 76e2bfc1-aca0-437d-a4d0-76defffe7f9a 00:17:44.608 --> 00:17:46.126 you're talking millions. NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 47be1711-e742-4810-92d4-68c10fb4cc51 00:17:46.130 --> 00:17:48.748 And when you, when you have technologies NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 75f5f15b-2a3c-4771-aff4-0f71d5a4874e 00:17:48.748 --> 00:17:51.453 that you're going to spend like 10s or NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 ba3dff55-78f0-4978-8afc-491f8a32533d 00:17:51.453 --> 00:17:53.818 20s of millions of dollars on, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 eddb943c-7338-416d-bd92-b0f421246427 00:17:53.818 --> 00:17:56.170 you really have to think how cost effective NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 2c5c7221-6f23-49fa-9365-62d8e79c07a8 00:17:56.232 --> 00:17:58.312 is this technology going to be deployed? NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 6a503028-f843-4aa7-9216-b685836f82dc 00:17:58.312 --> 00:18:02.075 I mean, do I really need to buy a NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 5cdb7128-8db6-4b26-94a9-432b9689db63 00:18:02.075 --> 00:18:05.795 Rolls Royce to to clean up my feedback? NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 406c989c-80c4-4c07-ac8f-cd6ed3e2ba00 00:18:05.800 --> 00:18:06.976 So it doesn't work in the budget. NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 ad012995-6289-4a5b-a029-f5c62c149ede 00:18:06.980 --> 00:18:09.880 What's potential cost reduction? NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 8b6fc848-61eb-4e07-81b1-c95c884ae10b 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:10.945 Is it more? NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 31a62bbc-38bb-466c-ae20-91d04ded0e55 00:18:10.945 --> 00:18:12.720 Is it more cost effective? NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 dfa16691-ee16-4d42-9904-9405b37c7dea 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:13.861 I mean if I use something tried NOTE Confidence: 0.86404912625 d6839010-edd1-4bb4-b6e1-a1c8f7079d8e 00:18:13.861 --> 00:18:14.979 and true and it gets it done. NOTE Confidence: 0.76020926 d101650c-c1af-4187-8ba7-f27c99427ffd 00:18:22.670 --> 00:18:22.900 Yeah. NOTE Confidence: 0.5836549925 c5adb8e6-2616-4c2e-9f95-0d068bb88179 00:18:26.260 --> 00:18:29.270 There is that work. Uh. NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 a0c6bd1e-a636-4f1b-8083-8f3ae179f8cd 00:18:33.050 --> 00:18:34.510 You know, uh, what's our? NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 3e55709e-bdc7-4e5b-9b50-054f8b15741a 00:18:34.510 --> 00:18:36.310 What's the what's the support for? NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 5426a58f-6571-40cb-92a7-d26eb675d335 00:18:36.310 --> 00:18:37.948 You know, if there's a failure, NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 4c142dd5-44de-451b-ab66-c1387e6444e3 00:18:37.950 --> 00:18:40.566 I mean, we're told to take to gamble. NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 76fb08fa-6a94-4f35-b2c2-a87a8cf6262b 00:18:40.570 --> 00:18:42.684 But you know, if you gamble on NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 74e41dec-f659-4402-b19d-b36d61f74d5e 00:18:42.684 --> 00:18:44.838 some things are going to fail and. NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 962fc19e-b51b-44e4-94d0-667a61a973f9 00:18:44.840 --> 00:18:46.232 How receptive and how supportive is NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 1a8d002a-d0f4-4528-94ab-a3892d67e271 00:18:46.232 --> 00:18:47.866 your command going to be when you say NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 57383ba0-8598-4507-8831-2b4415071bfa 00:18:47.866 --> 00:18:49.360 ohh I just spent a couple $1,000,000, NOTE Confidence: 0.650559678 8342dde3-8daa-4eef-b396-167de48367b8 00:18:49.360 --> 00:18:50.608 the remedy didn't work. NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 1629bfdc-5343-46c2-a5f1-b23a2945fb32 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:55.878 You know, you know, how is it? NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 1047e87e-c7ea-41d1-905b-175c524c6684 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:58.280 How can we contract for it? 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NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 22fe0d67-c7cc-49fe-a23e-4efe721b30e9 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:43.750 And you know for you. NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 44ff1e2a-0146-43eb-b3f4-65ee6052b836 00:19:43.750 --> 00:19:46.830 But you know, how do you do that? NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 89c14a5a-cd54-418d-bea9-623998ffa744 00:19:46.830 --> 00:19:48.174 I mean, it kind of gets hard. NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 19badeee-90b3-4fe9-b2ed-c6f7d4de88e7 00:19:48.180 --> 00:19:49.590 You know, we're kind of, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 55847cdf-29dd-4f18-95d7-96177f109a2c 00:19:49.590 --> 00:19:50.990 on one hand we want to deploy NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 11cdde12-fdc5-4de1-b8d3-2f05c6e22e1c 00:19:50.990 --> 00:19:51.670 innovative technology. NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 551e8f05-6e72-4630-9c0f-13a306929559 00:19:51.670 --> 00:19:54.528 But on the other hand, we're going low price. NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 7447e780-2085-41bb-a555-3ee0d0b2d74f 00:19:54.528 --> 00:19:57.038 And some of these technologies NOTE Confidence: 0.866496977142857 714202b9-7f4f-4329-bc73-a53e0386c792 00:19:57.040 --> 00:19:59.890 are offered only by one company. NOTE Confidence: 0.833442736923077 9729bb1d-0e4e-49d2-9c3d-0d9590d1d03f 00:20:01.980 --> 00:20:03.499 So it kind of makes that that NOTE Confidence: 0.833442736923077 6900fa19-83b1-4189-96d9-c447d6dd50a0 00:20:03.499 --> 00:20:04.859 also that's also makes it hard. NOTE Confidence: 0.833442736923077 db574e15-5afd-4a48-bf0f-36528e46f249 00:20:04.860 --> 00:20:07.668 And so you may maybe you have to look NOTE Confidence: 0.833442736923077 8172147e-6115-416e-8a56-8f96bb4324cf 00:20:07.668 --> 00:20:09.440 at soul Sourcing and other things, NOTE Confidence: 0.833442736923077 9e80bd54-7460-4b07-b06c-0fe27c0f19fa 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:11.888 but those have problems in themselves. NOTE Confidence: 0.813542365 d675a8a5-66e5-4383-b2e9-e74c58e6f5e9 00:20:14.770 --> 00:20:16.106 You know, like and then as I mentioned, NOTE Confidence: 0.813542365 9ba86969-9ada-4039-a08f-42984f6e9a77 00:20:16.110 --> 00:20:17.695 we have contractors that basically NOTE Confidence: 0.813542365 6eb2b473-c16e-4025-b463-b26f5511502d 00:20:17.695 --> 00:20:20.370 do the work. And so how well does NOTE Confidence: 0.813542365 7f134aba-0a3f-4f33-b94f-f6798532d09e 00:20:20.370 --> 00:20:22.090 the prime understand the technology? 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NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 4d794938-edcb-4605-9a00-67716281fc31 00:20:34.600 --> 00:20:36.448 I said, you know, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 1ca28d32-08be-47bc-a7d5-8781473bbbf8 00:20:36.450 --> 00:20:37.860 we have all the signs there, NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 48b64d53-9151-41f5-99a3-898cce77e3a7 00:20:37.860 --> 00:20:39.939 all the classic indicators that it degrades, NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 e0bd8cf9-74a2-41fd-9393-59c3f27efc10 00:20:39.940 --> 00:20:41.620 it's probably just need some help to NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 dfda94e7-a9dd-4d1d-8ba4-821c5830fd8f 00:20:41.620 --> 00:20:43.419 kind of just really push it along. NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 503a9a8d-7445-4c31-8d96-a31f3ec2f9f4 00:20:43.420 --> 00:20:45.156 It's like, OK, alright, Michael, go. NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 f8be0786-a31f-4044-805d-812cda70d1eb 00:20:45.156 --> 00:20:48.628 We'll go look at it. So they come back. NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 a950093f-b8fb-44f4-9f0a-34185893b391 00:20:48.630 --> 00:20:50.814 They had eliminated. NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 cd28faa8-c93f-41cb-bf08-063692fc1cd8 00:20:50.814 --> 00:20:52.270 Going forward. NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 6b7d3c62-d51a-4c18-a6f4-dcdcb1f2feeb 00:20:52.270 --> 00:20:54.293 And the reason they had eliminated it NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 23220942-606d-460a-9403-794eddafbf8a 00:20:54.293 --> 00:20:56.448 was because it creates vinyl flooring NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 8934bd34-1640-4d53-a726-2aa2907320e3 00:20:56.450 --> 00:20:58.795 and I said you guys really don't NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 b8c25650-e18c-4682-aebf-b9460da7ba56 00:20:58.795 --> 00:21:00.412 understand this technology and that NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 954f941d-c47d-4f02-b44c-16fe140401b5 00:21:00.412 --> 00:21:02.323 you just need to engineer the system NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 50c190fc-3c7b-4b2b-9545-d4e74244fb28 00:21:02.323 --> 00:21:04.191 to take care of the monochloride NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 a0d5626c-2224-4e84-b5a5-a9363e1dc14c 00:21:04.191 --> 00:21:06.252 maybe you guys should go hire NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 3108a680-7cc4-44c3-b729-97ed7245b970 00:21:06.252 --> 00:21:09.384 somebody and they actually they did. NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 61f09699-6cca-4a36-ad53-5c40ae212613 00:21:09.390 --> 00:21:11.777 So this is a company that builds NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 9541d4fd-9802-434f-b3e3-088c4a54efb4 00:21:11.777 --> 00:21:13.470 cities and bridges and dams, NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 224bfe28-2baf-4149-898d-58042bf2bd66 00:21:13.470 --> 00:21:15.285 but had trouble with figuring NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 1467d659-2206-4b8e-85d9-93ae0835b0c9 00:21:15.285 --> 00:21:17.100 out how to bioengineer complete NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 764fca51-a1cc-452c-84d9-2b2e9abc1b78 00:21:17.162 --> 00:21:18.830 destruction important songs. NOTE Confidence: 0.9021067375 cf06a69b-95d4-43dd-9926-32c65c0b3690 00:21:18.830 --> 00:21:21.119 So you run across things like that. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 d2d2d220-33ee-4870-be69-7d97cb2beb12 00:21:23.740 --> 00:21:24.868 You know one thing, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 8b41e829-0d01-4d6a-ab21-7062a6685d87 00:21:24.868 --> 00:21:26.897 I think that's kind of gotten lost NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 0127fad5-f8bf-464c-9068-bde4ced67c09 00:21:26.897 --> 00:21:28.829 and you know this summer the weather NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 d951fcc3-4d8c-4115-be7c-5d1b1e9f6465 00:21:28.829 --> 00:21:30.998 in San Diego has been kind of odd. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 320a1756-b1a3-44d0-bf80-2dea71506948 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:33.346 We actually the water off the NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 f35a3a4a-4199-411d-af76-dd9daf02cb93 00:21:33.346 --> 00:21:35.420 coast is so cold that. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 d964570e-868b-4feb-9ca0-160d0014d3d1 00:21:35.420 --> 00:21:37.256 Hurricanes don't come up to the NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 b2828f40-ec73-49f9-bb61-27be38e00063 00:21:37.256 --> 00:21:39.664 coast and affect San Diego. You know, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 09b3a489-3286-41c2-87f1-ffa44c361cc7 00:21:39.664 --> 00:21:41.574 usually more ghosts supports Arizona, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 1f39cbec-2344-4bca-a909-7580eb47c0fe 00:21:41.580 --> 00:21:42.663 the monsoonal rains. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 6b11b1e8-fd06-481b-bbd9-0cb5e9aa6281 00:21:42.663 --> 00:21:45.960 But this year we actually had a hurricane, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 3e16e487-82e0-4d4d-a4f9-9d379b77a0fc 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:47.032 not the hurricane itself, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 2bdcb14a-aafb-404e-a445-261f18a9c818 00:21:47.032 --> 00:21:49.013 but the the reach of the hurricane NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 7095b1d1-cb2e-4250-83de-36a340e2930a 00:21:49.013 --> 00:21:51.568 extended up to San Diego, and it NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 aa38ad3a-5e8f-4518-8ad2-8a2c14eb4c02 00:21:51.568 --> 00:21:54.946 actually rained for full day in San Diego, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 17e1055d-cf67-465c-b88f-eb091975a8a8 00:21:54.946 --> 00:21:58.800 and people were just kind of, really. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 e5ebe89a-3225-486b-b08c-3809383f453d 00:21:58.800 --> 00:21:59.496 It was crazy. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 d4fa0641-dd3f-4a4f-839c-ae372d0e0ec6 00:21:59.496 --> 00:22:00.821 I mean, it's just been. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 b62db870-600f-47b5-874d-65be97e94d55 00:22:00.821 --> 00:22:03.228 I I've lived there 30 years and I've NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 f55583cc-8af8-4a85-bd1c-8164e2ae6cb9 00:22:03.228 --> 00:22:05.220 really noticed even in San Diego, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 b0fd4cd1-d6d6-4fcc-92cb-109b609b517c 00:22:05.220 --> 00:22:06.640 the climate is changing. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 6d3f619f-350c-4677-8f2f-b15c0e7bfc18 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:10.398 You know, as a climate change, you know? NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 9a8c704e-3d16-4341-8246-0767cc55bec3 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:11.260 Back and forth about it, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 a9eaab8f-11a9-4cd1-bb97-6e597d9777c4 00:22:11.260 --> 00:22:14.466 but you know green, green and sustainable NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 743e0b35-f19b-49e0-b007-1f6f9d302ea7 00:22:14.466 --> 00:22:17.637 aviation was a big deal for a while. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 096641eb-db93-4094-9425-2378c05f8f31 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:20.566 But you hardly hear about it anymore. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 f88d40e0-900f-42f5-ab71-10934ab9a825 00:22:20.570 --> 00:22:23.027 But I think it's gonna come back. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 92972ed3-954c-4036-ade3-4cfc65054130 00:22:23.030 --> 00:22:25.010 And I think you know I I go to NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 642ec0dd-1356-4ae8-b93b-755ee991c9cf 00:22:25.010 --> 00:22:26.709 these technology conferences. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 24215a87-9238-442d-bded-c16e6b85a465 00:22:26.710 --> 00:22:29.279 I went to the PFAS workshop that NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 819c80db-eb84-486d-8b10-559f6679c42d 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.967 sort of ECP had in Long Beach. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 7dacf983-c9e2-4604-878b-292b1f510546 00:22:31.970 --> 00:22:32.964 And I look at some of these, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 7a2cb833-d1fe-43be-8920-91a893536fcb 00:22:32.970 --> 00:22:33.891 it's like, wow, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 dab24e7b-8e2e-4415-bd62-d5a354309c92 00:22:33.891 --> 00:22:35.119 somebody's are pretty energy NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 38c5e59a-53fe-43ef-9ae4-0c04a2016f3a 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:36.728 intensive and it's kind of like, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 c7140491-22ad-4a6b-b96c-65f949f61cdd 00:22:36.730 --> 00:22:38.255 wow, gas is really expensive NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 1cfb064f-e4d9-4781-9539-1af151b65452 00:22:38.255 --> 00:22:39.475 in California right now. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 6544122f-83e1-460c-9a76-10367141e05d 00:22:39.480 --> 00:22:42.266 And so is electricity and climate change. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 052857e1-b4e4-4a9f-91ce-2479ac1ffef6 00:22:42.270 --> 00:22:43.368 And it's like how I'm I'm, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 1397f90e-2713-47b6-a89b-a41b11c52bf2 00:22:43.370 --> 00:22:44.230 I'm just kind of thinking, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 daa61574-6318-4393-9161-d2e1bfa26e9b 00:22:44.230 --> 00:22:47.209 how does how are all is all that being NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 41d8232e-01b3-4fb0-b0b1-11cbcdf9a41c 00:22:47.209 --> 00:22:49.489 thought about and coming together? NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 390c9435-afda-4ab9-a759-3467c2cd9a0b 00:22:49.490 --> 00:22:51.242 I know that the Navy's working NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 9b4aee55-dbfe-4ddb-86a8-d17ce91f3d70 00:22:51.242 --> 00:22:52.770 on a climate action plan. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 58e0b433-be18-4631-8fbb-85fd28962c5a 00:22:52.770 --> 00:22:55.556 I know at some point that's going NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 1a0e6246-587a-42d7-93df-a2488b589acb 00:22:55.556 --> 00:22:58.410 to filter down to the field where, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 6fe0f99f-3587-4136-ab63-4595b801b7ae 00:22:58.410 --> 00:22:59.050 you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 b941bb77-3a51-46f7-93fe-a3a2dbd30521 00:22:59.050 --> 00:23:00.650 they're going to be looking NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 59bf51c7-e65c-4529-bc96-df362f4cea99 00:23:00.650 --> 00:23:02.460 at everybody to do something. NOTE Confidence: 0.857153022692308 fab22fa7-2521-4a6a-b4c6-0ac1fc195c04 00:23:02.460 --> 00:23:03.258 In that regard. NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 59c11021-e35e-44ba-bbb1-976596556400 00:23:06.950 --> 00:23:09.536 You know what are trusted sources? NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 560699a0-c97b-47ae-9fab-6097b3450aa5 00:23:09.540 --> 00:23:12.220 I mean. It's kind of hard right now. NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 56b1560c-e333-4632-a8d9-d18a69d242b0 00:23:12.220 --> 00:23:15.346 I mean, we kind of lost NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 1d023c40-b29b-45a1-9331-5886bfaf3c91 00:23:15.346 --> 00:23:16.909 our technology advocates. NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 81e10c7b-5726-4804-854a-b055fc4b3b30 00:23:16.910 --> 00:23:18.506 We're trusted sources information. NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 e6d05d2c-f47a-41d7-9ad9-513aa1a6d93a 00:23:18.506 --> 00:23:22.137 I know that like certain PCP was doing NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 873c6b48-8f8e-456a-82e1-8929f7e4abad 00:23:22.137 --> 00:23:23.886 environmental environment Wikipedia. NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 ad6e8da4-cabb-4a65-9403-767688d6d026 00:23:23.890 --> 00:23:25.346 But lately every time I go to it, NOTE Confidence: 0.770442976666667 2f895a6b-a876-4de7-b2ca-4fcac7806927 00:23:25.350 --> 00:23:26.490 it looks like the websites down. NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 a35544cc-b495-4043-8b61-ebd1d821674d 00:23:28.980 --> 00:23:29.994 So it's kind of hard to NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 dd1082e6-ad67-4c44-b900-afb7332629e3 00:23:29.994 --> 00:23:30.870 kind of figure that out. NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 5f51ba11-b0ee-4779-ad8d-393d23dea8cf 00:23:30.870 --> 00:23:33.550 Sometimes there's a there's a. NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 4a351498-7181-41a0-aff2-1a4abf0680b0 00:23:33.550 --> 00:23:35.710 There's a company out there with a very, NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 0591924a-d8f2-4d36-b13a-6622602c2d49 00:23:35.710 --> 00:23:37.358 very large marketing budget, NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 ae46d2cc-384f-4690-a6e4-6a4d0d8f8607 00:23:37.358 --> 00:23:39.830 but every time I ask them, NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 d125ff04-4a84-476f-8081-fa25076fd062 00:23:39.830 --> 00:23:42.572 there's like a technical paper on NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 1fc17bcc-00ae-4552-b840-57af488e3ffb 00:23:42.572 --> 00:23:44.794 how well their products before. NOTE Confidence: 0.920970235454546 612923c9-c1ef-451d-9222-6e85ac7a742b 00:23:44.794 --> 00:23:47.326 I never hear back from them. NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 d4170efd-2d04-4f5b-8e19-773af9555dc3 00:23:52.330 --> 00:23:54.234 OK, so how does it work today? NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 3cab64a2-7925-4fbb-8f85-88a6215b6eaa 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:57.216 So you know we have the art, we have, NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 a65226f6-c0a9-4d10-b995-017eda0e9300 00:23:57.216 --> 00:23:59.604 we have remnants of our previous NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 2a56a5a7-8268-43b1-a2c1-ff594185c579 00:23:59.604 --> 00:24:02.220 program still within the organization. NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 42b20868-f49b-4e31-a028-78003c67ab2c 00:24:02.220 --> 00:24:04.759 And I would say 5 to 15% of our NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 7de41e9f-0ec5-4c1c-aff8-bee0751196c9 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:07.406 PM's are what are what I would call NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 df3d8dcd-32c8-4f6e-9b9c-ee4efcd0ebe6 00:24:07.406 --> 00:24:09.470 earlier adopters of technology. NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 a5c7907c-832a-43ce-b849-16b62aa98d33 00:24:09.470 --> 00:24:11.302 So you know, those are the ones that NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 bd157523-f919-4790-a5fe-c2c2ff7806cb 00:24:11.302 --> 00:24:13.537 in the past we focused on people that NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 6dc7bd53-59ed-41e0-81f7-fe38d4bd78f6 00:24:13.537 --> 00:24:15.044 are willing to consider innovative NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 7ffb606d-bbf9-481b-8915-a39c3670c6b3 00:24:15.044 --> 00:24:16.832 technology and help bring it out NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 cf10aa0b-346b-4128-8bfd-d4a6fc3ce95c 00:24:16.832 --> 00:24:19.365 to the field because the technology NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 89087637-45c7-4afb-9c54-8722fc71b0e0 00:24:19.365 --> 00:24:22.090 advocate can't do it themselves. NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 f1a0d233-ac71-42b0-8dea-a0112c5b8359 00:24:22.090 --> 00:24:23.668 You know, they have the RPM NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 ed955a2f-611a-4cd9-82c2-e3b3291e94db 00:24:23.668 --> 00:24:25.490 has to handle the contracting, NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 66331b2a-f1f2-4d90-b922-82f570ba222b 00:24:25.490 --> 00:24:26.614 the management, the oversight, NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 e69cf7be-c53e-477a-a1b7-85a5d3967074 00:24:26.614 --> 00:24:28.640 so that you have to have somebody NOTE Confidence: 0.947462152857143 a4e108d0-5974-4b7f-8f1e-c817d560d994 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.350 that's willing to do all that. NOTE Confidence: 0.866482978 8424a1b5-17c7-437b-9334-fd8d31401620 00:24:33.030 --> 00:24:34.724 So it's kind of off, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.866482978 0e719d26-d93b-4982-acff-2562ebac4510 00:24:34.724 --> 00:24:37.503 so it's kind of off operating off. NOTE Confidence: 0.866482978 92a6c326-1304-4e5d-81fd-66400a3939db 00:24:37.510 --> 00:24:38.190 Who do you know? NOTE Confidence: 0.731499759 c9698020-2ada-4fb2-9b28-ecdeb7b46de5 00:24:41.120 --> 00:24:44.928 So I often get Tony Danko from NOTE Confidence: 0.731499759 75c93057-e4e0-4c1e-8299-1820c5a7025d 00:24:44.928 --> 00:24:48.505 the engineering service ***. NOTE Confidence: 0.731499759 65d50b6b-edc3-4c31-be23-4aa17ee7a142 00:24:48.505 --> 00:24:51.296 Sorry. Probably your organization NOTE Confidence: 0.731499759 9170975b-31cb-424b-a42c-4189cb647a71 00:24:51.296 --> 00:24:52.988 says his name too many times. NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 41568962-056d-4f4f-9297-256e05910d0d 00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.036 Tony Dangelo call me and says, hey, NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 c4094a67-d5ab-4206-aff8-1908d769255e 00:24:57.036 --> 00:24:58.688 Michael, I've got one for doxing project NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 d45af315-7caf-44fb-8685-36e77e5267a3 00:24:58.688 --> 00:25:00.435 and we were gonna do look at this, NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 e8930baa-acee-4f41-a08b-843ee47ff292 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:02.030 this and this was OK Tony, NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 291fae02-ba7f-4141-bffa-ab4d51978890 00:25:02.030 --> 00:25:04.232 because I have one of the NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 7b67b1a7-82e4-4646-8bef-9a08aa5b9da6 00:25:04.232 --> 00:25:05.333 largest highest concentrations, NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 d0def88e-3fcc-491c-914d-da8a97a442cb 00:25:05.340 --> 00:25:11.310 1 paradoxon plumes in the Navy. Unlucky. NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 98d830ed-11cc-40c1-9a7c-8380dc488b93 00:25:11.310 --> 00:25:14.460 So he's called me up and I probably have. NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 c6c303e4-0a34-41f7-9b4d-b225a578143c 00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:16.335 6. One for doxxing demonstration NOTE Confidence: 0.636729006666667 ff49c2d7-ada1-4001-9207-be4352c6b352 00:25:16.335 --> 00:25:18.950 projects out at my side right now. NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 bc97fed4-99e8-4efc-ab51-b11687efc6af 00:25:21.090 --> 00:25:22.749 Jason called me out and said our NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 0fac82b5-6c62-41e0-8cb0-fc74656b3253 00:25:22.749 --> 00:25:24.922 emailed me said hey, Michael can so NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 caa7396c-cac2-43ac-874c-0aca738d6af7 00:25:24.922 --> 00:25:28.289 and so at San Diego State get a 55 NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 a2dc20aa-446a-4a52-9034-c3788a5dfe4c 00:25:28.289 --> 00:25:30.480 gallon drum of salt with its soil, NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 75e99e85-761e-40d5-b440-430f3368f069 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.805 water, water, 55 gallon drum of water. NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 e0b2f3a8-03d3-47e3-a37c-29a3d7b97a62 00:25:33.810 --> 00:25:35.330 Oh, sure. I mean sending. NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 e7fbccca-44f5-447e-8ac4-af533a03f9dc 00:25:35.330 --> 00:25:37.850 I can see sending a state from my backyard. NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 f06df809-c7f9-4507-b5ed-64fdc7b78ab4 00:25:37.850 --> 00:25:41.386 So. So we we worked with the guy. NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 64dfa3d3-084e-423b-a29f-361e20ff53ac 00:25:41.390 --> 00:25:43.766 We're actually out in the field and he's NOTE Confidence: 0.822494496363636 44d5d760-74aa-46dd-8c6c-3a47cf275349 00:25:43.766 --> 00:25:46.248 going to get a 55 gallon drum of water. NOTE Confidence: 0.7469216525 a6f6f8cb-00a2-4904-94e6-b93e46664245 00:25:48.830 --> 00:25:50.870 I've submitted a need there we NOTE Confidence: 0.7469216525 37117a2b-35ec-4ec3-97e5-a4cf44385fa4 00:25:50.870 --> 00:25:52.605 have amnesty program which is NOTE Confidence: 0.7469216525 e3319125-d9ae-41f4-a19b-c831815ca623 00:25:52.605 --> 00:25:54.145 a Navy internal R&D program. NOTE Confidence: 0.7469216525 83482b5b-1ecc-4a34-a3a7-9128c0ce333c 00:25:54.150 --> 00:25:57.468 I submitted to need about PFAS technologies. NOTE Confidence: 0.7469216525 ec82e433-2420-4af3-898f-55099fbfbdf1 00:25:57.470 --> 00:25:58.598 I'm not sure which I'm not NOTE Confidence: 0.7469216525 c3d1823e-0fd4-4322-9dfa-6d930343b204 00:25:58.598 --> 00:25:59.789 sure what's come out of it yet, NOTE Confidence: 0.7469216525 64588c72-7fd0-4b96-9ef5-fe83bb712bc2 00:25:59.790 --> 00:26:01.280 but I've submitted a need. NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 def937ae-0842-45ab-a35b-e14d2b15e609 00:26:03.510 --> 00:26:05.020 Sometimes, and I don't actually NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 a872e3d3-c502-49ab-97ba-2609e5983af8 00:26:05.020 --> 00:26:06.530 have an example of this, NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 3654180b-3686-4203-9a09-f916eaadce55 00:26:06.530 --> 00:26:09.160 but sometimes a contractor brings. NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 c6b2a38f-1cfd-4144-8fb8-836425ef0f78 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.080 Innovative technology to the table said, NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 626d6aab-a7b9-4336-bbc5-00e7ce5a6f1d 00:26:11.080 --> 00:26:12.785 hey, we've used this before NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 86d79e91-2ddf-48b3-8628-4287d56fbc1b 00:26:12.785 --> 00:26:15.000 on one of our other sides. NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 289c6cdf-1f6a-426b-be6c-c2cdfc8f2c3b 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:16.939 We think this would be a good NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 2c14c748-8003-4f01-a2b2-e7d9fed94b4e 00:26:16.939 --> 00:26:19.648 candidate for you to consider. NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 e5cfdff2-c271-462b-a19a-460ade4c9a04 00:26:19.650 --> 00:26:21.890 We talk among ourselves. NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 531cd768-cc35-471f-8ef7-6df586183a48 00:26:21.890 --> 00:26:23.858 You know, I'll hear somebody did NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 d05c32e0-c9c1-4069-8b50-764294811aa8 00:26:23.858 --> 00:26:26.356 something in our SE office or somebody NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 dc34efbf-294d-4427-b9d7-a81ef32077c2 00:26:26.356 --> 00:26:28.588 here is something I did something. NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 e4d58c18-64d8-4a79-b5b8-7d7d075949f7 00:26:28.590 --> 00:26:30.046 And we call each other up and said, NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 36019adf-90fd-4c5f-9056-f3562ca507d8 00:26:30.050 --> 00:26:31.470 well, how did this work? NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 637d660a-bfa6-4f65-98ba-0dea6c5902eb 00:26:31.470 --> 00:26:32.868 How did you contract for it? NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 ef6af408-dbea-49b6-96df-a54246185c1c 00:26:32.870 --> 00:26:33.762 How effective was it? NOTE Confidence: 0.844730336 9bbf76e1-a8a7-4ccd-b67d-f0418a1a4bb4 00:26:33.762 --> 00:26:34.877 How much did it cost? NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 a7031d28-8510-4104-abc0-e5dcd3b7ade5 00:26:37.040 --> 00:26:39.368 You know, kind of, but that's very informal NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 4da94db9-ddec-498d-8418-b27ab6ec3ce5 00:26:39.368 --> 00:26:41.527 and it's and again it comes back to. NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 186277dc-25f9-4e7a-8114-9b8990745a89 00:26:41.530 --> 00:26:43.106 Somebody saw something that's NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 547261a0-5b8d-46e9-8e56-b15948e95677 00:26:43.106 --> 00:26:45.076 triggered something in their mind. NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 cfd8a561-44e6-4aa0-859a-b8d7da7d5b52 00:26:45.080 --> 00:26:47.068 It's like, oh, I'm going to call NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 63f73ef3-caa7-4110-978d-149bcf14e333 00:26:47.068 --> 00:26:49.092 this person to get more information NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 d915ffc9-f8aa-4682-88b7-6880ae56b337 00:26:49.092 --> 00:26:50.937 about this technology and because NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 a56601d8-6f4a-4310-a8ab-c543efbdcb7a 00:26:50.937 --> 00:26:53.396 he's a he's a a fellow now factor, NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 8e3bfa5b-22e0-40d9-8a78-84665e7dac86 00:26:53.396 --> 00:26:56.268 I'll place a higher level of trust in him. NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 b28a9c0d-30a8-48cc-afad-0bf56b28eb40 00:26:56.270 --> 00:27:01.070 Then I would calling a vendor or contractor. NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 48af5cf6-9de8-4abf-b7cc-70d8736d0b51 00:27:01.070 --> 00:27:02.338 To get their opinion, NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 56d39d0a-a6e5-4b3b-a114-6723a9c1179b 00:27:02.338 --> 00:27:04.240 you know they're trying to like. NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 25273dcc-e67e-4fe4-bde6-95a23091caf2 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.970 No, this is in the. NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 e297a056-3d67-4248-891f-ca0cc20b06b5 00:27:06.970 --> 00:27:07.939 You risk communication, NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 472dd9b1-e678-4a32-8153-702fdd535a72 00:27:07.939 --> 00:27:09.554 you have hierarchy and it's NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 0bb61842-4aef-40fe-a852-0ab4f9df1810 00:27:09.554 --> 00:27:10.772 like government employees are NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 f4d44543-e6ef-49cd-bd0d-e72b913c23db 00:27:10.772 --> 00:27:12.326 at the lowest or no contract. NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 1968827a-f472-4f51-9cf6-c1b7a3f1a830 00:27:12.330 --> 00:27:13.866 Employees are at the lowest and NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 15ae51ed-2c62-4d17-b9d5-010aafd9b798 00:27:13.866 --> 00:27:14.890 then it's government employees NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 e0372c4c-efcf-4937-8dd9-afda22d25db5 00:27:14.938 --> 00:27:15.890 or something like that. NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 5bd9caca-566a-435a-9325-3d12ca3c2a74 00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:16.890 And unless you're a priest NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 5612b771-bd98-4db6-881f-0f9bc529016a 00:27:16.890 --> 00:27:17.690 and then you're like, NOTE Confidence: 0.853174293125 bff9c48e-ed5a-4c48-b537-a52b358044e0 00:27:17.690 --> 00:27:18.538 at the very top. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 15584354-12dd-4b17-bd1e-8fff76c7639b 00:27:22.600 --> 00:27:26.160 Let's see. You know, and sometimes I NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 a09bcea6-9043-4031-b5a9-73fa937f1a6a 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.840 see stuff at conferences, I actually. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 0667a59a-583c-4114-8ba0-eb3895247002 00:27:29.840 --> 00:27:30.920 Was that a batel conference? NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 22c27452-96f9-494d-9776-aee75206472f 00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.776 And I was actually looking for NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 37006d96-a384-43c2-acbb-df1a98fb57e4 00:27:33.776 --> 00:27:36.240 something where somebody knew about. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 82c4c1f7-c4db-4bcb-a228-74252e8d1612 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.000 Discharge of groundwater into surface water. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 0f287efa-dec3-4883-bb33-1251ad58d668 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.163 I actually found a contractor who gave NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 d0233dca-0c7f-4f54-bc84-6c1d0e86a279 00:27:41.163 --> 00:27:42.860 a presentation exactly on that topic, NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 91177cbc-6e93-4ed4-beae-da89377b3446 00:27:42.860 --> 00:27:45.516 and I said I want to hire you. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 850e1e4f-c692-49a9-afdc-cfd5dca17953 00:27:45.520 --> 00:27:48.355 That happens every once in a while and then. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 c35cc7c1-211c-4e8c-a3b5-fff5c6581fc3 00:27:48.360 --> 00:27:50.355 So and then something like we have, NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 0fa093a7-fafd-4d54-988c-8d1c17047245 00:27:50.360 --> 00:27:51.907 like I said, we have all these NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 6a34a616-60ac-4c3a-be0a-969e3955b439 00:27:51.907 --> 00:27:53.050 different marketing things that we NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 931fa6ec-c17c-45ed-96c2-78fc145c8687 00:27:53.050 --> 00:27:54.569 do in the Navy with these different NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 c0b302a5-1558-48b6-932c-9d59b1c5e102 00:27:54.569 --> 00:27:55.949 technologies and every once in a while NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 3ebe5a99-f52e-4a0b-83e6-2075ef9a86a6 00:27:55.949 --> 00:27:58.750 something comes out of that actually. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 3687fc0f-b9d6-4f92-b2c4-853ebbdb9a06 00:27:58.750 --> 00:28:02.578 During the riots they had the HRP's, NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 640a1d5d-7e81-49a3-a59b-d21d1199417b 00:28:02.578 --> 00:28:05.170 which is high resolution. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 b00348ec-2476-46be-8f2d-ec714300b50d 00:28:05.170 --> 00:28:06.458 Something profilers, NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 1ff842d5-dd95-4f59-b2d8-dbc022d44223 00:28:06.458 --> 00:28:10.966 profilers which is for profiling in the NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 408c3a67-3ecb-4312-a0a2-9ec08bb04e06 00:28:10.966 --> 00:28:13.206 sentiments and I saw that at the red. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 cf91ccd2-e554-43a2-b25a-a8d3ddb5d6c8 00:28:13.210 --> 00:28:16.808 So we're actually deploying it this fall. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 cfa2e337-d6f7-4819-99a5-ec379f0085ef 00:28:16.810 --> 00:28:19.420 .69, we're looking at as the NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 b3e54ea9-5165-4782-8b16-a9eb442e750e 00:28:19.420 --> 00:28:21.660 groundwater discharges of surface water, NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 61a515ef-c3ca-4908-9b89-51d7a9111efc 00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:24.740 we see this a lot of biodegradation occurs. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 c4c3d4ef-1e4e-480d-9486-2f3f5219a096 00:28:24.740 --> 00:28:27.206 So we're looking at using those NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 a8b91406-9ed6-4f75-b971-09378029fc95 00:28:27.206 --> 00:28:28.850 to get a finer. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 b0b6bc78-cf06-4de9-acc1-dcf395f742d4 00:28:28.850 --> 00:28:32.242 Grid on on how on on those zones NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 d168cd6e-bad1-4922-a39f-411746fd1df4 00:28:32.242 --> 00:28:36.460 that by remediation? Turn. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 ad6b3a53-8e41-4680-b77e-b1b9584943b1 00:28:36.460 --> 00:28:37.496 So where do we go from here? NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 bd9a86ad-1e0e-4099-a0a8-4183fe9b3277 00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:39.660 And you know my my thing is those NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 b8b8e4b2-e6dd-45da-b684-0f7fb4d8ed71 00:28:39.660 --> 00:28:41.589 who fail to learn from history NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 e0498d62-bc5c-4ffc-9807-6a580a3e6027 00:28:41.589 --> 00:28:43.234 are doomed to repeat it. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 07542595-4005-42b2-afba-0be0b631fdcb 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.740 And so I guess my message is kind of like, NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 2e8f0d25-9ba8-4bea-8e15-511da84e6bc1 00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:47.172 hey, NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 f7f01009-2b8b-4bf2-92d3-04e8fab2a822 00:28:47.172 --> 00:28:48.900 we've we've done innovative NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 cd1ee44a-7541-4f78-ba0f-a45ae734c40b 00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:51.060 technology transfer for 30 years. NOTE Confidence: 0.93268885 f11c0877-79fa-4b4b-8d6f-44e098f20c01 00:28:51.060 --> 00:28:52.950 There's some things that work really well. NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 097d81dd-c417-4023-bbda-276028739c5f 00:28:55.870 --> 00:28:58.320 And that we got PFAS now through NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 e2699ab6-9dfd-4705-a5fd-17eeb640911b 00:28:58.320 --> 00:29:00.727 moving through what I call the NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 4aee7edd-cb6e-402d-acb6-7408c1afc03c 00:29:00.727 --> 00:29:02.008 emerging contaminant cycle. NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 c9820373-3496-4768-ae54-002c5163dbc8 00:29:02.010 --> 00:29:04.506 It's very similar to the stages of grief, NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 1f9bc811-ba17-459e-abce-02c12d2f47fa 00:29:04.510 --> 00:29:09.890 anger, bargaining, denial, you know. NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 c469b98f-8521-4d60-bed8-b659d41eb6a5 00:29:09.890 --> 00:29:11.922 I would say I I think right now NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 4ad2ef6d-479b-438d-b2b6-82c424d6e176 00:29:11.922 --> 00:29:13.830 we're at the bargaining phase. NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 6a4c9b4b-4e80-45a7-9c44-f1d3b2806421 00:29:13.830 --> 00:29:16.224 I hear EPA's coming out with MCL's NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 babe50a4-cc35-4181-8a88-b42197b06e28 00:29:16.224 --> 00:29:18.142 that nobody will ever be able to NOTE Confidence: 0.74114649625 083fa000-8856-450f-a644-04a549433f0a 00:29:18.142 --> 00:29:20.119 drink any water in the US anymore. NOTE Confidence: 0.8482668475 90c7df7f-0c16-430e-9a55-8dc2faedd31f 00:29:22.750 --> 00:29:24.352 Well, I also heard at a NOTE Confidence: 0.8482668475 1221ebcd-e9d1-4b99-8550-155a0229d204 00:29:24.352 --> 00:29:25.210 conference that, Yep, NOTE Confidence: 0.8482668475 390e7852-bb80-4d7b-9e49-9a02382c64fc 00:29:25.210 --> 00:29:26.810 find PFAS and insects now. NOTE Confidence: 0.8482668475 3bce7b10-cd1f-4b04-8e48-fd16a8ceedcc 00:29:26.810 --> 00:29:28.310 So I'm kind of like. NOTE Confidence: 0.8482668475 9230b78b-d661-45cc-a67b-8250ff56eaa1 00:29:28.310 --> 00:29:29.186 You know, how do you get? NOTE Confidence: 0.8482668475 67ee5a81-819b-498f-afda-aff6a7bcba09 00:29:29.190 --> 00:29:29.826 How are you gonna? NOTE Confidence: 0.8482668475 ce3ec687-649e-40a5-a75e-13140de50387 00:29:29.826 --> 00:29:30.780 How are you ever gonna get NOTE Confidence: 0.8482668475 71be66ba-c474-4ae6-984a-83d2ca2dd8f7 00:29:30.825 --> 00:29:31.820 that out of the environment? NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 aa49eec3-bcd2-43d3-8d0e-26664e488fbe 00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:37.504 Seems like everyone's coming up with NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 b44cd4a7-bca3-436c-bbf2-8fa6c1581785 00:29:37.504 --> 00:29:39.869 something to do with something with NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 efd753ec-934c-4c94-89cf-0e066e1fb635 00:29:39.869 --> 00:29:42.142 PFAS either character, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 a6ea9cfa-7a97-47fd-930a-c76aebf3c428 00:29:42.142 --> 00:29:43.966 analyzing for characterizing it, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 a22b178b-9a98-4281-b752-392ab69a86b0 00:29:43.970 --> 00:29:47.308 treating it, disposing of it, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 f04af163-70bd-4529-b85f-e4d1bf281a9a 00:29:47.308 --> 00:29:49.544 it's just like if it seems like if you NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 819517b8-ebc5-406c-8cf6-ef1d93693559 00:29:49.544 --> 00:29:51.893 write an RDD proposal and put PFAS in there, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 00ec1114-4018-4eed-81ad-6b991d1390a9 00:29:51.900 --> 00:29:53.996 there's so much money out there right now, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 3e159b7b-66cc-4996-9fa0-d659eac76472 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.910 somebody will give you money. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 792c4bc3-f981-495c-b86a-0df970bd97d5 00:29:56.910 --> 00:29:59.005 So there's overwhelming amount of NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 be4a210a-bea4-43a5-84b5-bdc50095db94 00:29:59.005 --> 00:30:01.100 information out there right now. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 5aa2c198-0f11-4269-949b-79c6262692d4 00:30:01.100 --> 00:30:05.096 I mean I I was looking. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 91ef0091-41e2-4178-bfa0-016543ee21b9 00:30:05.100 --> 00:30:09.410 To treat PFAS and groundwater. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 7a54d586-582b-4f2a-8188-a639c567ac1e 00:30:09.410 --> 00:30:10.448 I would have a hard time NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 172e2c78-281f-45d6-a8ac-47610ddf08c1 00:30:10.448 --> 00:30:11.410 figuring out where to start. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 7a370070-6e58-4212-8728-b0adf0d85ecb 00:30:11.410 --> 00:30:14.448 I mean, I I I don't have. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 904b27bb-3201-472d-b904-db66678a5b2a 00:30:14.450 --> 00:30:16.190 I don't have a network of NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 a7ad0196-7941-4703-87a9-f88e4c6388a6 00:30:16.190 --> 00:30:17.760 people that I can call. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 058f5482-4326-4f8a-9b8a-f7f56a0d3c0b 00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:18.570 And say, hey, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 9edb8d2d-3eed-4dbb-bd13-f1dbb2a34757 00:30:18.570 --> 00:30:21.120 how did you treat your pee fast over here? NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 670e2393-68b8-42c2-9f3a-63aca1162583 00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:22.420 Because I the answer is NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 743ee4e9-7a21-44f1-b512-6ef153756df8 00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:23.720 I don't really know this. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 71a15c30-6b78-459f-b7f3-e9ca7ede00b6 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:25.930 We're using gap right now NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 6b54ccf8-5156-4878-88d7-64cbd1e0713b 00:30:25.930 --> 00:30:27.698 is the typical answer. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 2741c8f6-42fb-4123-909d-b85fdf8e9fa8 00:30:27.700 --> 00:30:30.934 And there's other things coming out there. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 379d7ef3-9430-4aec-af5b-6abd3ae2c342 00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:34.685 But it's really hard as an RPM. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 cd1b05c4-4bab-41d3-834e-3540e51f8251 00:30:34.690 --> 00:30:37.950 To discern what to believe. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 a23baf56-f32a-4c54-8f1a-fa76fda45bfc 00:30:37.950 --> 00:30:40.950 With high level certainty. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 0fe344c7-ba3a-4372-b748-2d6fc51b18bd 00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:43.490 Because nobody knows, I mean, I mean, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 ab657c2e-1659-4c03-a299-b31efc8f9b02 00:30:43.490 --> 00:30:47.210 we're still in that very early phase of PFAS, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 e737bd6d-9015-4d4c-936b-d146a210873d 00:30:47.210 --> 00:30:49.070 but you know people wanting to NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 72ac72bd-97f0-4fa2-86b4-49f474b312e2 00:30:49.070 --> 00:30:51.119 deploy these things out in the field. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 7b6a4716-7446-4393-9c13-98e4c4681d61 00:30:51.120 --> 00:30:52.534 But I'm kind of like looking at NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 29306f1b-4baf-4fde-b0e0-0be6f628cf14 00:30:52.534 --> 00:30:54.330 it with a very jaded eyes, like, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 c0218d56-c435-4b35-82c8-485d5b363eae 00:30:54.330 --> 00:30:56.500 well, how to get alert, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 88f96686-15cb-46c2-839f-1a89f806f65c 00:30:56.500 --> 00:30:57.340 what do I do? NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 9ec19acd-b6b3-4ab9-8f99-fa363c7c3314 00:30:57.340 --> 00:30:58.796 What happens when I scale this up? NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 99941734-870f-4ae5-b7bd-a3c935503eaf 00:30:58.800 --> 00:31:02.280 You know, lots of unknowns out NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 73881783-acef-4b12-a261-e82c7ba5fb20 00:31:02.280 --> 00:31:06.188 there and there isn't like. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 36fe1b85-c65a-4fea-9041-5cd86508f313 00:31:06.190 --> 00:31:08.524 And interagency intra has an intra NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 4c4ab2c0-d20d-4a24-bcb6-09e74b436388 00:31:08.524 --> 00:31:10.777 or inter interagency group or even NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 3e102ee4-70ee-4424-a257-00c259871a2e 00:31:10.777 --> 00:31:12.655 within the Navy there's not really NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 b529beec-c811-44ee-95e3-95a5720f762d 00:31:12.655 --> 00:31:14.749 a very solid group of people. NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 74dd439e-3e0e-4375-9099-65642bf75955 00:31:14.750 --> 00:31:15.200 You can, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 8040f88e-28f4-474e-815d-d47b00d1109e 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:16.775 you know there's people I know to NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 2b8b0c24-7b67-4617-848a-3182a219888e 00:31:16.775 --> 00:31:18.600 call who may have the answer may NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 a73ea7b8-081a-408f-b996-1ad6dd28b2b2 00:31:18.600 --> 00:31:19.971 somehow somebody who knows somebody NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 66fa87fc-6fd2-4908-be8b-fbbc37555e4b 00:31:19.971 --> 00:31:22.227 who knows somebody that may have the answer, NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 5e351f1d-e57b-40cf-ac96-b02c95377a99 00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:23.749 but as an RPM it's really kind NOTE Confidence: 0.818241568666667 cae9e14f-c826-4e3c-897c-af7ff8ff1b56 00:31:23.749 --> 00:31:25.299 of hard to figure this out. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 4a4a952c-75f4-4c9e-b9f3-e489833f41e5 00:31:29.430 --> 00:31:32.202 So, you know, here, here we have NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 e1f25c15-5a42-4ebe-9722-68af17a4fc79 00:31:32.202 --> 00:31:34.620 this program where technology for, NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 5d590e59-d603-496b-8421-7ecd0c89107f 00:31:34.620 --> 00:31:38.310 you know, had this very exponential NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 743cc450-ea1c-4623-8a3a-85b87a605921 00:31:38.310 --> 00:31:40.545 increase flattened out and now we NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 717f5aeb-3944-4946-a6d1-abeadc713767 00:31:40.545 --> 00:31:42.662 got PFAS which is way different NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 a2e1ff56-3d66-4f9a-ba1c-beadc3c4a607 00:31:42.662 --> 00:31:45.322 from all other PC's in the past. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 cd01a504-416e-4f74-ad3e-2314d6a619ef 00:31:45.322 --> 00:31:47.062 And we're going and we're NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 aee4488e-a062-445c-b260-2349776963f4 00:31:47.062 --> 00:31:48.919 basically starting from scratch. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 cb8bec15-9b85-43ee-9e35-d1a17979a8e9 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.600 Uh. In a lot of ways with that. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 6943a0c8-825c-43fe-be0f-15c383d93c31 00:31:52.600 --> 00:31:55.786 So I guess from my perspective. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 1b0da0a5-8466-4d12-bd34-955c93fa55d9 00:31:55.790 --> 00:31:57.665 You need somebody. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 0f3a57c4-c00a-4828-9830-3969c2711f05 00:31:57.665 --> 00:32:00.165 Either within the agency NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 5320fc89-b7db-4d7f-8209-d7633ede9113 00:32:00.165 --> 00:32:03.140 or across the agencies. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 7da7a2ea-8044-4722-9d4c-72c9083549db 00:32:03.140 --> 00:32:05.644 That are kind of like in the innovative NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 c2d29696-1f7f-4811-bef5-3cb4e2646854 00:32:05.644 --> 00:32:07.277 technology application role that you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 6cc8f9d6-4672-4343-9b14-af5dc9364bca 00:32:07.280 --> 00:32:08.060 you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 7d55c4c2-de1c-4cbe-8091-eac63f98bcff 00:32:08.060 --> 00:32:11.180 don't decide who's the winner or the loser, NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 bfb3dd43-fdc9-4049-9359-0fe86fb40e9b 00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:13.650 but basically knows enough about NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 ce331098-ba59-4900-b901-036fd9f4f21e 00:32:13.650 --> 00:32:16.120 all the technologies and where NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 fda3162d-60f8-439b-b170-c12cf33f1c70 00:32:16.205 --> 00:32:18.089 they are in development. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 26b834dd-18b7-4abb-8f7a-29677b024ad0 00:32:18.090 --> 00:32:20.634 And where they could end up in the NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 8cc055c6-bba2-4e87-93ac-326c4e01c4fe 00:32:20.634 --> 00:32:23.006 future at full scale and kind of. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 162c8af5-676a-4d6a-bec4-b5d6465cd3a3 00:32:23.010 --> 00:32:25.128 Guide people out there because right NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 bfadbad9-7ae4-459e-bdb7-329483cdb692 00:32:25.128 --> 00:32:27.829 now you're kind of you're on your own. NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 916982fc-5340-46ff-8215-6cae80726567 00:32:27.830 --> 00:32:29.742 You get a compass and a map and NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 da292b5f-2e48-442a-8e5c-7bdedbd480f6 00:32:29.742 --> 00:32:31.309 hopefully you find your way to NOTE Confidence: 0.904974111 c575dad1-e41b-4ba7-8e72-42464c9289ae 00:32:31.309 --> 00:32:32.604 getting to remedy in place. NOTE Confidence: 0.768321823076923 0c1fe17e-ef4b-4e68-907f-ae9a9f42d635 00:32:39.560 --> 00:32:42.542 So I went in on an optimistic NOTE Confidence: 0.768321823076923 4dbc98a5-f32c-4f6d-8477-9cd547f9238a 00:32:42.542 --> 00:32:45.138 note for the 80 at least. NOTE Confidence: 0.768321823076923 be14a408-389e-49f5-87f4-8819bfa81593 00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:47.440 So this lack of technology NOTE Confidence: 0.768321823076923 e8f9cd66-2c35-46e4-b332-fb270b43adf5 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.280 support has become recognized. NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 0427f1ee-661c-46a1-80da-95bd6b2422db 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.557 There's some early discussions on your way. NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 a5942639-ec86-45fe-a144-496abb191395 00:32:54.560 --> 00:32:57.297 One of our leading candidate for us, NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 d5e3a277-954c-47e7-bf6a-0e9a24acbadd 00:32:57.300 --> 00:32:59.298 a solution at the moment and still a lot NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 eedca60c-8018-48d9-87b3-267973b4a784 00:32:59.298 --> 00:33:01.525 of discussion has to happen is what's NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 096eae03-a32d-48bc-830d-b1f219d943dc 00:33:01.525 --> 00:33:03.919 called the technical warrant holder for NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 c18f00cc-7be1-4f73-b19f-343423a9a985 00:33:03.919 --> 00:33:05.470 environmental restoration technologies. NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 f7d9ce0b-2567-472c-bfa0-02cfae01b09a 00:33:05.470 --> 00:33:08.510 So this is basically somebody NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 2567a36f-0ed9-4450-b0c8-5762cf220793 00:33:08.510 --> 00:33:11.633 in charge of being, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 96d5eae3-1896-42ba-bef1-f157dab40957 00:33:11.633 --> 00:33:13.788 someone who knows how all NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 01cf8117-3653-491d-9607-cdca13393707 00:33:13.788 --> 00:33:15.659 in everything about facts. NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 c85e654e-6939-47a1-8d97-785fa65d1e6a 00:33:15.660 --> 00:33:17.364 And it's basically like a one stop shop NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 59b800df-2374-43da-a28b-e8b1cac8d637 00:33:17.364 --> 00:33:19.539 or a group of people or a one stop shop. NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 4ed230c8-02c5-441f-9d84-eb1b38c46a42 00:33:19.540 --> 00:33:21.088 Maybe it's a group of people. NOTE Confidence: 0.800154845714286 b77682a1-e73e-4ae4-b5cf-22cfb38e0d55 00:33:21.090 --> 00:33:22.599 With different focuses. NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 3c4f1491-7b67-40ba-8c2c-5a8c5784ad09 00:33:24.760 --> 00:33:26.492 Physically have the knowledge NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 9952f40e-f7ae-4344-8391-ee97d9b55a22 00:33:26.492 --> 00:33:28.657 to either provide our people NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 200e5b13-7d10-47dd-ab78-040303eb1db6 00:33:28.657 --> 00:33:30.819 with information or you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 4ffe4c02-509e-4716-9ef1-e82d15d2daa7 00:33:30.820 --> 00:33:32.596 or is it gatekeeper saying hey, NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 60b9718e-3a40-4971-a695-d60c3a1e0a8d 00:33:32.600 --> 00:33:34.735 OK, I see you have this condition NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 5f9881c5-4274-496e-9e26-cde2aad9b471 00:33:34.735 --> 00:33:36.739 and you got this beef fast. NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 241e97ff-c099-4e4d-9a84-88d8981c3cc8 00:33:36.740 --> 00:33:38.854 You need to talk to these people. NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 7a7e8b11-0200-45b6-9d9b-d086d7390884 00:33:38.860 --> 00:33:41.342 So at least people know, you know, NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 fc9512d8-2534-4323-8bfd-a6d67df89958 00:33:41.342 --> 00:33:44.230 have a better path to getting to a NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 6da56f84-478b-4960-b5a2-eca158947b65 00:33:44.313 --> 00:33:47.753 solution than just being out on their own. NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 589ca52b-ae91-4be9-83c3-ed00396d1503 00:33:47.760 --> 00:33:49.220 Basically, at one place shop. NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 5b1b09a9-446f-46ef-8372-a1bad10c0d76 00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:50.520 So that's all I've got. NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 3f114e33-88ec-490b-84d5-584ce8502fe2 00:33:50.520 --> 00:33:52.440 I know there's a do we questions now NOTE Confidence: 0.768538895714286 ea666092-ab1c-45da-9dab-b6159afbf559 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.517 or is there that's for the panel?